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Paula Begoun, The "Cosmetics Cop"


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#Post 1 of 31 OFFLINE   BlueRoses2525

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 08:51 AM

What does everyone think of Paula Begoun, the "Cosmetics Cop"? She's definitely a holdover from the olden days where reviews of beauty products (or any consumer product, for that matter) were not in abundance and had to be purchased from "expert sources." Now that reviews are everywhere, from blogs to shopping web sites to Facebook and Twitter, the need to pay for reviews of anything has all but vanished. Paula obviously figured this out recently, as her Beautypedia site went from being a pay site to a free-but-you-need-a-username-and-password to a completely open source and free site.

 

I do think that she has some great insights and a refreshingly skeptical perspective on some of the outlandish claims made by skin care and cosmetics manufacturers. On the other hand, her harshness towards anything with jar packaging, so-called "irritating ingredients" or anything with glitter or shimmer gets oppressive after a while. She clearly has her own image of what constitutes a good makeup look -- including "neutral foundation" and matte eyeshadow. In years past, she would downgrade any products that didn't jive with her perfect look, although recently, she has softened up and now merely points out that certain colors are shimmery or "loud."

 

What do you think of her? And have any of you tried anything from her Paula's Choice line?




#Post 2 of 31 OFFLINE   suenotto

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

I have used many skin care products in her line, not the makeup though, it seems too boring. I really do like her approach, analyzing ingredients based on effectiveness (clinical studies) and skin irritants, as well as cost. Having said that, I do take her critiques with a grain of salt. Sometimes I find a product that I like and when I check her site, I find out its ineffective and full of irritants. Its very disappointing that so many products have ingredients not good for skin, but not all ingredients are irritating to all people. Just because some people are sensitive to X doesn't mean I'll be sensitive to it. Anyhow, I think she has sound opinions but I don't take her reviews to be the final word on a product. I think its good to use as a guideline for choosing skin care.

 

As far as her line of products go, I think its a good basic line, but its hard to get excited about it. People like change and trying new things. I used her products off and on. I can't say that I noticed a big difference using her products over others, but its affordable and has well researched ingredients.



#Post 3 of 31 OFFLINE   OiiO

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:33 AM

I got one of her books as a present a couple years ago and my personal experience really clashed with some of her statements so I also take her advice with a grain of salt. One particular topic I found very conflicting with my opinion is the peptides. She always downplays their role, but literally every single product I've tried that contained them worked wonders for me and everyone else I recommended it to.



#Post 4 of 31 OFFLINE   LoriTG

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by BlueRoses2525 View Post

What does everyone think of Paula Begoun, the "Cosmetics Cop"? She's definitely a holdover from the olden days where reviews of beauty products (or any consumer product, for that matter) were not in abundance and had to be purchased from "expert sources." Now that reviews are everywhere, from blogs to shopping web sites to Facebook and Twitter, the need to pay for reviews of anything has all but vanished. Paula obviously figured this out recently, as her Beautypedia site went from being a pay site to a free-but-you-need-a-username-and-password to a completely open source and free site.

 

I do think that she has some great insights and a refreshingly skeptical perspective on some of the outlandish claims made by skin care and cosmetics manufacturers. On the other hand, her harshness towards anything with jar packaging, so-called "irritating ingredients" or anything with glitter or shimmer gets oppressive after a while. She clearly has her own image of what constitutes a good makeup look -- including "neutral foundation" and matte eyeshadow. In years past, she would downgrade any products that didn't jive with her perfect look, although recently, she has softened up and now merely points out that certain colors are shimmery or "loud."

 

What do you think of her? And have any of you tried anything from her Paula's Choice line?

I've never heard of her but I'm gonna go look her up now



#Post 5 of 31 OFFLINE   zadidoll

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

Her opinion is also subjective and should be taken with a grain of salt as the ladies above stated. I'll always tell people what works for me may not work for you and what works for you may not work for me. Everyone is different and even one's own skin changes over time so what worked a few years ago may not work for you a few year from now.

 

Since there are no laws governing cosmetics other than the FDA's regulations on what's allowed and not allowed I think there should be "cosmetic cops" to point that out when a cosmetic company is doing stuff they shouldn't be doing - like when Two Cosmetics was selling Lady Burd Paint Wheels as eye shadows despite Lady Burd stating not for use around the eyes. But who is she to tell anyone that a shimmery shadow is "loud"? That's just being rude since not everyone has the same tastes in cosmetics and colors.


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#Post 6 of 31 OFFLINE   Wida

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:06 PM

I do check Beautypedia for advice before I purchase most skin care products, but I usually ignore her makeup reviews.  I have found that products containing skin-irritating ingredients (especially anything that causes a cooling sensation) really do bother my skin and lips.  So, I check her reviews and see what she has to say and go from there.  She also lists the PH of salicylic products, which is really important for me and hard to find elsewhere.  Her makeup reviews though seem more like her opinion and I don't agree with her on most of it.  I've only tried a few of the Paula's Choice products and those are ones that I've gotten for free from her beta-testing program - which I have no idea how I became a part of.  The products that I have tried haven't wowwed me and I wouldn't purchase again as I have found better ones from other companies.  I haven't bought any of her products as I've found cheaper "Paula's Picks" and so I've gone with those instead of purchasing her product line.  I am intrigued by her new BHA9, but I think $35 for .3 oz is a tad bit ridiculous, so I haven't bought it...yet.  That may be one that I actually fork over the money for eventually. 



#Post 7 of 31 OFFLINE   nishino

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

I love Paula's website and the way her reviews are always based on published research on specific ingredients rather than anecdotal evidence.  Also, since i have very sensitive skin that gets red and rashy at the drop of the hat, I'm very glad when she points out specific ingredients in products that have potential to cause irritation.  Since educating myself on skincare ingredients based on what I learned from her site, and switching out some of the products I was using that were causing irritation without my knowing it, my skin has become so much stronger, more resilient, and much less dry than it used to be.

 

I do agree that she tends to be very subjective when it comes to makeup (I believe she mentioned this herself somewhere on her site) so I usually don't bother much with her makeup reviews and just focus on the skincare stuff.

 

The anti-jar-packaging rants do bother me a bit also, mostly because she never tells you how long it takes for ingredients to break down.  If it's 6 months or a year, then maybe jar packaging is just fine.

 

As for her products, I do use some from her acne line.  The rest look interesting and I'd like to work in an antioxidant serum into my routine someday, but unlike Paula I am a believer of choosing skincare products based on potent concentrations of specific ingredients.  She tends to formulate products with a smattering of everything.  You won't find 15% Vitamin C in her line anywhere, for example.



#Post 8 of 31 OFFLINE   BlueRoses2525

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

Some of her reviews used to be really snarky and arrogant. She dismisses Too Faced as only being the brand for you "...if 'maximum glitter' is on your list of makeup must-haves," and says it's no better than Jane or Maybelline. Maybelline is on her list of Brands That Can Do No Wrong, hence the comparison.



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by BlueRoses2525 View Post

Some of her reviews used to be really snarky and arrogant. She dismisses Too Faced as only being the brand for you "...if 'maximum glitter' is on your list of makeup must-haves," and says it's no better than Jane or Maybelline. Maybelline is on her list of Brands That Can Do No Wrong, hence the comparison.

 

THAT is absolutely rude on her part!


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#Post 10 of 31 OFFLINE   BlueRoses2525

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:22 PM

She once published a book called Blue Eyeshadow Should Be Illegal. That should tell you everything you need to know about Paula Begoun.



#Post 11 of 31 OFFLINE   BlueRoses2525

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:22 PM

In her review of Kat Von D's Beethoven palette, she complained that it contained a royal blue shade, "which should be illegal." DERP!



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:37 PM

Well yeah, clearly she isn't up on modern makeup trends.  Then again, makeup reviews are always going to be subjective.  Here's the blurb on her site:

 

"Makeup products are evaluated in person and more subjectively than skin-care products"

 

Which is completely different from how she reviews skincare products:

 

"Our criteria is primarily based on published medical and scientific research to help ensure you find the best products for your skin whether it's our Paula's Choice products or someone else's."



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by nishino View Post

Well yeah, clearly she isn't up on modern makeup trends.  Then again, makeup reviews are always going to be subjective.  Here's the blurb on her site:

 

"Makeup products are evaluated in person and more subjectively than skin-care products"

 

Which is completely different from how she reviews skincare products:

 

"Our criteria is primarily based on published medical and scientific research to help ensure you find the best products for your skin whether it's our Paula's Choice products or someone else's."

 

Basically she should be evaluating the formula not the colors.



#Post 14 of 31 OFFLINE   nishino

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

Well, here's the full blurb, where for some reason they did include shades as criteria (which I agree is kind of weird):

 

 

Makeup products are evaluated in person and more subjectively than skin-care products with regard to the following traits:

  • Application
  • Texture and finish
  • Color selection (range of shades and their suitability for various skin tones)
  • How the product compares to similar products from other lines
  • Formulation is also a consideration for makeup products, such as foundations with sunscreen
  • How accessible the products are in store, such as testers and sensible color organization


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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

I check her sight often for information about formulas and ingredients.  It helps me balance out the purely subjective opinions on other sites.

 

I ignore the parts of the reviews which are just her personal opinion.  She did write "Blue Eyeshadow Should be Illegal" afterall 



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

LOL That cover should be made illegal along with all 1980s permed hairstyles. LOL

 


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#Post 17 of 31 OFFLINE   nishino

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:19 PM

Wow, is that the actual title of her books?!  Oh, I see that's what freemia was referring to.  It must be a reference to the blue eyeshadow of the 80s....

 

like this:

 

 



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:26 PM

Well let's face it, the 1980s blue shadows should be illegal since those blues were weird shades of blue. The blues on the market today are gorgeous - bright, vibrant and pigmented.


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#Post 19 of 31 OFFLINE   nishino

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:28 PM

yeah, the one in the middle looks ok, but man those powder-blue ones on either side... whew!



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:37 PM

LOL Well they didn't do much blending back in the 80s. LOL Look at Paula's blush - very bold with little blending. Come to think of it shadows were applied with sponge applicators and not brushes. Brushes are relatively a newer thing among the everyday person and prior to that brushes were used mostly by pros only. The more I remember the 80s the more I remember that it was more about frosts and one color (sometimes two). I remember the greens from back then and those were ugly greens as well.


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