[CellyCell]

Hasn't majority of our history shown us being degraded, objectified and such?
...people follow suit and stupidly, they still continue it. Personally, the only time I've ever encountered anything of this kind is when we're playing co-ed sports or in jobs where it demands heavy, physical labor. Women are pushed aside, picked last... undermining their actual ability. I mean, it doesn't bug me much with these things often but when it's thrown in our faces then it does - like a creature going, "ooo you're going to let a girl beat you?". Or other things like, "...girls can't do that, girls shouldn't do that." Irks me.

As for jokes, I think they're find and I can take it and will dish it too. But when it's a deliberate low blow, then forget it.

I have no issue with women in pornography or music videos - the ones who do it "tastefully". It's a women's choice and if that medium she uses makes her feel "sexy" - then so be it. I mean, women are scene as objection of lust and desire more so then when men are up there shaking their thang. I believe that's why it's still so popular to see girls in music videos. I'm sure there's been videos with guys shaking their asses... but really, is that something we all wanna see? Haha. I'm just picturing muscle men flexing and pouring wine down themselves... ugh, ain't cute.

Basically it comes down to the women, if she lets herself be put down, used around, chewed up and spit out then of course men are going to do and say whatever to her. But I think guys actually show respect to those who earn it, if I'm making sense? I know that's how guys usually act. Sleep with hoe, marry the virgin type of mess...

Anyways, I think guys get some of the same shit back too. Especially gay men.