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BBC NEWS | Europe | Austrian 'hid daughter in cellar'
Page last updated at 20:52 GMT, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:52 UK

A 73-year-old Austrian is under arrest on suspicion of hiding his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathering seven children with her, police say.
The existence of the woman, believed missing since 1984 and now 42, emerged after a teenager said to be her daughter was taken to hospital.
Both the woman and teenage girl are receiving medical treatment and the other children are in care.
A police investigation in Amstetten, Lower Austria Province, is continuing.
The suspect, named only as Josef F, was arrested on suspicion of incest and keeping his daughter in captivity. He has not responded to the charges against him, police say.
One of the children the man allegedly fathered died in infancy, police believe.
Three children, including the 19-year-old who was taken to hospital, were allegedly kept in the cellar with their mother while the other three reportedly grew up with their grandparents.
DNA tests will be taken to establish whether Josef F was indeed their father.
Placed in care The alleged crimes came to light after the teenager, named as Kerstin F, was dropped off at the Amstetten hospital last weekend.

Finding Kerstin seriously ill, doctors appealed for her mother, who at that time was assumed to be missing, to come forward to provide more details about her medical history.
Josef F allegedly then released the mother and two other children from the cellar, telling his wife Rosemarie that she had chosen to return home, police say.
It was not immediately clear how police were alerted.
The mother, named as Elisabeth F, has been receiving medical and psychological treatment since being discovered.
She appeared "greatly disturbed" psychologically during questioning and agreed to talk only after authorities assured her that she would no longer have to have contact with her father, and that her children would be taken care of, police added.
The six children are three boys and three girls aged between five and 20.
Police spokesman Franz Polzer told reporters they were now all in "psychological care in a secure institution in a clinic here in this area".
"They are being cared for individually - those between 12 and 16 years of age who grew up with their grandparents, and two boys who, when they came out yesterday with their mother, saw the daylight for the first time in their lives," he said.
Police said three of the children were registered with authorities and lived with the grandparents.
According to police, Josef F and wife Rosemarie had told authorities the three had been abandoned at birth outside their home - in 1993, 1994 and 1997 - each time, the couple claimed, with a note from Elisabeth saying she could not care for the babies herself.
'Dead baby burnt'
The police issued a statement giving details of the alleged abuses Elisabeth recounted to them.



She said she had been sexually abused by her father since the age of 11.
Josef allegedly lured her into the cellar of their house in Amstetten on 28 August 1984, drugging and handcuffing her before locking her up.
It was assumed she had disappeared voluntarily when her parents received a letter from her asking them not to search for her.
"Abused continuously during the 24-year-long imprisonment", Elisabeth bore six children while a seventh, one of a set of twins, died soon after birth.
The dead baby was allegedly taken out of the cellar and burnt by Josef.
Elisabeth said Josef had provided her and three of her children, who were locked up along with her, with clothing and food.
His wife Rosemarie had allegedly not been aware of what was going on.
The discovery of another Austrian woman, who was held captive in a cellar by an abductor for more than eight years, gripped the country in 2006.
Natascha Kampusch finally escaped from her kidnapper, 44-year-old Wolfgang Priklopil, who killed himself shortly afterwards. Ms Kampusch was abducted at the age of 10 in 1998 and held in a small, windowless cellar beneath Priklopil's garage in the commuter town of Strasshof, near Vienna.

[emily_3383]

I read this and it is so sad. Crazy world!

[Jessica]

What the %$@# is wrong with people???? OMG....what craziness. At least they have finally been discovered. I just dont think there is going to be any sane part left of this woman. Thats a lot of years to reverse

[puncturedskirt]

Wow.

[Andi]

Me being from Austria..I thought I was gonna post it first lol. It was the talk of the day of course and it´s disgusting and shocking.

Can you imagine the life of the poor children that were forced to live in that basement with their mother? They were born there and are now 19, 18 and 5 years old....and have never seen the world outside, never been out to play etc.
All they had for entertainment was a TV, and their mother tought them how to speak. I can only imagine they must be screwed up for life. And their names (and last name) have been published in the news, as well as the exact address!!!!!
Also pictures of the children that the grandparents raised have been published (with the black bar over the eyes, but still), along with their names.

Anyone involved can now only change their names and move far away from this city, and probably get lifelong psychotherapy. Even the children who seemed to have a normal life, living with their grandmother and "grandfather"...they are a product of incest. SICK!

Regarding the last part of the article, about Natascha Kampusch:
This case has been allover the news again lately, most people believe the guy who held her hostage for so many years had people helping him, and there were people who covered everything up. Also there have been many obscure mistakes during the investigation of the police, so it might turn out she could have been found much much earlier, and the police (also some politicians might be involved) are the one´s to blame she wasn´t rescued earlier.
The poor girl stated that she´s thinking about leaving the country cause she doesn´t get her peace, people think they have the "right" to know in detail what happened to her. Some stupid newspaper printed a comment of her that said she voluntarily ended up having sex with this man and even got pregnant by him...but that comment was from some private police do***ents are never should have became public interest.

It really makes me sick how the media publishes every single detail of these stories. And the victims who already had it hard enough are hurt even more by that.

[daer0n]

This is so sick and disgusting, i know he will get what he deserves in jail, from all the inmates, what a f'king bastard.

[emily_3383]

Originally Posted by Andi

It really makes me sick how the media publishes every single detail of these stories. And the victims who already had it hard enough are hurt even more by that.

That is terrible. They are going to have to leave the country. I really hope they get some assistance.

[Andi]

Originally Posted by daer0n

This is so sick and disgusting, i know he will get what he deserves in jail, from all the inmates, what a f'king bastard.

yeah I hope he um gets the pedophile treatment (aka being raped by inmates)
Kinda OT: In cases like this I´d be totally for the death penalty. He destroyed so many lives and will probably be in prison forever, costing our country tons of money, which he sure doesn´t deserve.

[ColdDayInHell]

I'm shocked and saddened beyond words.

[Bec688]

I saw this on the news last night. It really made me feel sick, those poor children are never ever going to have a normal life, imagine all the pyscological problems they have/will have later on down the track.

[bella1342]

I read about this today, and it's so incredibly sad. I'm not sure if it's right, but I read they had 7 kids over the years... there were a set of twins, but one of the babies died from neglect, and he ended up burning the baby in an oven.

They said 3 of the remaining kids were held captive with their mother, while the other 3 lived upstairs with Josef and his wife. What a sick #$%&#$!

[CellyCell]

And his wife had no clue about it? I find that hard to believe...

That's really hard to imagine all this happening, but you find out more and more shocking things in lately - I would not be surprised if something more disturbing shows up. This so far is topping the cake.

Poor lady, more than anything. Being captive since a child and baring her own father's children. Sick.

[KatJ]

This story literally almost made me throw up. I have a hard time understanding that things like this actually exsist. I can't believe people are so sick. And the poor lady, being locked up for that long and having her father's children? This is the most disturbing thing I have heard in a while.

[Shelley]

Originally Posted by daer0n

This is so sick and disgusting, i know he will get what he deserves in jail, from all the inmates, what a f'king bastard.

I totally agree!

That poor women and her children. I feel so bad for them.