MakeupTalk Click for Mortgage and Loans Info Click for Perfect Cheek Bones!  
New Posts
General Chit Chat Forum
Swaps Center
Donate
Forums
 
Newsletter Archives
Current Newsletter Video/Picture Gallery Blog
Get Toolbar
MUT Home
 
Feedback Center Link Directory MOTM- Beautyfocus! Vote MOTM MuT Arcade 
FAQ
 
Go Back   MakeupTalk > Off Topic > US Politics: 2008 Presidential Race
User Name
Password
Abbreviations Rules/Regs
View Poll Results: Do you find this magazine cover posted below :
Offensive 18 66.67%
This is Presidential Politics! 4 14.81%
Not Sure 1 3.70%
Don't Care 4 14.81%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-15-2008, 07:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
CD Makeup Lover
 
Darla_G's Avatar
Darla_G's Notepad
Darla_G's Reviews
Darla_G's Swaps
Darla_G's Friends

User has 4,446 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Terrapin Station
Posts: 4,446
Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

This has already been denounced by the McCain and the Obama campaign. Offensive -or- effective Political Satire?
________________________________________




Mag satire panned; depicts Obamas as Muslim, terrorist


source


Enlarge New Yorker via AFP/Getty Images Democrats and Republicans are calling a New Yorker magazine cover tasteless and offensive for its satirical depiction of Barack Obama as a Muslim and his wife, Michelle, as a gun-toting terrorist.


By Jill Lawrence, USA TODAY
This week's New Yorker set off a Web-and-cable frenzy Monday over cover art that shows Barack Obama as a Muslim, Michelle Obama as a militant and the American flag aflame under a portrait of Osama bin Laden — all in the Oval Office.
Reactions to the cartoon by artist Barry Blitt ranged from sadness to rage to scorn. The consensus from analysts was "what were they thinking?"
"It's the mass media at its worst. It perpetuates false information, and it's highly inflammatory," says Darrell West, an elections and public opinion expert at the Brookings Institution. "It gives credibility to what's been circulating for months, and that's what makes it dangerous."

POLITICS BLOG: Do you find magazine cover offensive?
In a statement Monday, New Yorker editor David Remnick called the cover a "fantastical" satire that shows "obvious distortions" about the Obamas. Some blacks don't see it that way.


"I wouldn't use the word satire. The word I would use is racist," said Sallie Elliot, 53, of Cincinnati, waiting in that city Monday to hear Obama at the NAACP convention. "It perpetuates narrow, stereotypical images, and it was insulting to me."
George Lockwood, who lectures on newspaper ethics and political caricature at Louisiana State University, said the magazine made "a damn-fool decision." In years overseeing comics at the old Milwaukee Journal, Lockwood says, he learned that "the one thing that most readers don't understand is satire. You do it at some risk."
The problem, says Elaine Miller, a former professor who gives talks on gender and race in political cartoons, is that "once you launch a work of art it belongs to the reader. The artist's intent is very interesting, but the reader owns the interpretation."
That was the fear on liberal blogs Monday, the second day the cartoon cover topped Memeorandum.com — a ranking of political hot topics on the Web. A recent Newsweek poll shows the potential for misinterpretation: 26% said Obama was raised a Muslim, 39% said he attended an Islamic school and 12% said he was sworn in to the Senate on a Quran. None of that is true.
Satire is supposed to exaggerate reality, not reflect it, author Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote at ta-nehisi.com. "Sadly, that picture exaggerates nothing — that's exactly what a slice of Americans believe about Barack Obama. Expect that image to be on T-shirts within two weeks," he wrote.
Christian conservative David Brody made a similar prediction at The Brody File: "Obama's critics on the right think the picture is spot on. I mean, this thing has 'copy and paste' written all over it. Expect to see this … picture popping up in conservative e-mails everywhere."
Obama's campaign spokesman, Bill Burton, criticized the cover as "tasteless and offensive." Obama's fall opponent, Republican John McCain, called it "totally inappropriate" Monday and added, "Frankly, I understand if Sen. Obama and his supporters would find it offensive."
Some conservatives said the cover annoyed them because they were its real targets.
"The cartoon is intended to make fun of conservatives as ignorant racists, and essentially marginalize any criticism of Obama as moronic," wrote Philip Klein at The American Spectator.
Other conservatives mocked Obama at the American Thinker website, under a headline about Obama's "incredibly thin skin."
Rick Moran posted a Der Spiegel cover of President Bush as Rambo, complete with muscle shirt and automatic weapon, and asked, "Isn't it time for Obama to man up?"
Contributing: Susan Page in Cincinnati





__________________


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Darla_G : 07-15-2008 at 07:59 AM.
Darla_G is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 08:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
April loves Adam
 
AprilRayne's Avatar
AprilRayne's Reviews
AprilRayne's Swaps
AprilRayne's Friends

User has 2,661 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,661
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

I'm not voting for Obama so I'm not offended, but I do think it's disrespectiful and wasn't a good idea!
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Quod me nutrit me destruit!
AprilRayne is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 08:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
♥ρίη§ ληď ηєєđļє§♥
 
Adrienne's Avatar
Adrienne's Reviews
Adrienne's Swaps
Adrienne's Friends

User has 6,312 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sparkle City, SC
Posts: 6,312
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

i heard that the new yorker tried to defend the cartoon. I know its just a satire but i think this is just plain disrespectful and rude. I know its freedom of speech but its feels like they took it too far with this one.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Adrienne is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 08:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
Joe Sixpack fan!!!!!!!!!!

 
Aprill's Avatar
Aprill's Notepad
Aprill's Reviews
Aprill's Swaps
Aprill's Friends

User has 12,563 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mud pie capital of the World!! :p
Posts: 12,563
Blog Entries: 15
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

Offensive.
Prejudiced
Disrespectful
Tasteless
Childish
__________________


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Aprill is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 10:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
CD Makeup Lover
 
Darla_G's Avatar
Darla_G's Notepad
Darla_G's Reviews
Darla_G's Swaps
Darla_G's Friends

User has 4,446 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Terrapin Station
Posts: 4,446
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

They do have that "bump" down.

and agreed it is both tasteless and plays off incorrect stereotypes.

But you know what? we haven't seen the worst of it with regard to this election.
__________________


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Darla_G : 07-15-2008 at 11:50 AM.
Darla_G is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 11:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
Joe Sixpack fan!!!!!!!!!!

 
Aprill's Avatar
Aprill's Notepad
Aprill's Reviews
Aprill's Swaps
Aprill's Friends

User has 12,563 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mud pie capital of the World!! :p
Posts: 12,563
Blog Entries: 15
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

Correct. It will get worse.
__________________


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Aprill is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 11:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
Neo Maxi Zoom Dweebie
 
internetchick's Avatar
internetchick's Notepad
internetchick's Reviews
internetchick's Swaps
User has 3,381 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 3,381
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aprill View Post
Offensive.
Prejudiced
Disrespectful
Tasteless
Childish
Yep. And there are so many fools out there who will see the cartoon and believe it.
__________________
Loved it? Hated it?
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
internetchick is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 01:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
Fulltime Awesome
 
McRubel's Avatar
McRubel's Reviews
McRubel's Swaps
User has 535 Posts
country flag United_States
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 535
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

I don't plan on voting for Obama, but I'm still not pleased by this cover.

I guess the part that gets me is that it's "supposed" to poke fun at how some Americans view the Obamas. 1) I'm ashamed that some Americans are that ignorant! 2) Putting this picture on the cover gives the impression that the New Yorker backs up the ignorant view. It probably would have gone over better had it been smaller, in the jokes section, with a caption that said "American ignorance at it's finest."
McRubel is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 01:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
CD Makeup Lover
 
Darla_G's Avatar
Darla_G's Notepad
Darla_G's Reviews
Darla_G's Swaps
Darla_G's Friends

User has 4,446 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Terrapin Station
Posts: 4,446
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

Quote:
Originally Posted by McRubel View Post
I don't plan on voting for Obama, but I'm still not pleased by this cover.

I guess the part that gets me is that it's "supposed" to poke fun at how some Americans view the Obamas. 1) I'm ashamed that some Americans are that ignorant! 2) Putting this picture on the cover gives the impression that the New Yorker backs up the ignorant view. It probably would have gone over better had it been smaller, in the jokes section, with a caption that said "American ignorance at it's finest."
I wish we could "thank" posts here because thats exactly how i feel. (well jury is still out on who to vote for part) Thanks!
__________________


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Darla_G is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-15-2008, 02:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
MuT ho!

 
StereoXGirl's Avatar
StereoXGirl's Reviews
StereoXGirl's Swaps
StereoXGirl's Friends

User has 11,845 Posts
country flag United_States
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 11,845
Blog Entries: 2
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

Blah.

It took me a minute to even figure out who the two characters were supposed to be! lol!


But, yeah...it's supposed to be poking fun at all the incorrect info that's been going around about Obama, right? It does at first glance give off the impression that The New Yorker supports such misinformation.

I don't know, to be honest, there are things about it that both sides could find offensive...
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


StereoXGirl is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-16-2008, 08:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
Freshman Talker
 
shyiskrazy2's Avatar
shyiskrazy2's Reviews
shyiskrazy2's Swaps
User has 337 Posts
country flag United_States
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 337
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

I can count like 6 things wrong with this picture.
shyiskrazy2 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-16-2008, 10:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
Ms Behavin
 
Carolyn's Avatar
Carolyn's Reviews
Carolyn's Swaps
User has 4,260 Posts
country flag Canada
Current Mood:
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: S-W Ontario
Posts: 4,260
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

I was watching the View today, and the panel discussed this picture.
Apparently, Obama feels that the cover is more offensive to Muslims than it is to him.
__________________
A woman's greatest weapon is a man's imagination.....unknown
Carolyn is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-16-2008, 02:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
50 AND SO FLY!

 
monniej's Avatar
monniej's Notepad
monniej's Reviews
monniej's Swaps
monniej's Friends

User has 7,849 Posts
country flag United_States
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,849
Blog Entries: 1
Re: Is this Magazine Cover Offensive -or- Effective Political Satire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aprill View Post
Offensive.
Prejudiced
Disrespectful
Tasteless
Childish
i think you pretty much covered it all!
monniej is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote To THE TOP!
Old 07-17-2008, 03:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
I Love My Arizona