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Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

Barack Obama has been criticized for plagiarizing a speech during a campaign stop this past weekend and not being upfront about it.
The similarities between the Democratic presidential hopeful and a speech made by by Deval Patrick, the current Democratic governor of Massachusetts, back in October 2006 are striking.
Barack blatantly copied several lines and linguistic speech patterns from Deval's "Just Words" speech for Obama's own "Words Matter" speech in Wisconsin.





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Old 02-18-2008, 09:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

I listened to this and the only thing that was the same was part of a speech- by MLK Jr- which if you think about it, a lot of people use- so I don't consider that plagiarizing...
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I listened to this and the only thing that was the same was part of a speech- by MLK Jr- which if you think about it, a lot of people use- so I don't consider that plagiarizing...
It was actually a few different quotes. Not just MLK Jr.

But, regarding the two speeches, I think it might be a stretch to call it plagiarism just because they used the same quotes from other people.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

well they all use pretty much the same speech writers so i wouldnt be surprised.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

On the news, Deval Patrick said that he and Obama are old friends and often collaborate on ideas, and that he said Obama could use this phrase? Not sure what I think...although I do think this is being blown way out of proportion.
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thats interesting
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

After viewing the speech, I don't see where he's commited plagarism. Politicians often "quote" other figures that came before them. Many have "quoted" JFK, MLK and Abe Lincoln, etc
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

This is what makes me NOT want to vote Clinton at all, blatantly attempting character assasination over something so miniscule.

Why oh why do they not take the high road?

Set thier platforms and stick to it and leave competitors to thier own devices????

I despise politics for this very thing,

Oh, I should add that I would consider Clinton based on her qualifications, but not for the mudslinging, that sets her back in my mind and makes me feel as if she knows she HAS to do it in order to gain ground.
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

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This is what makes me NOT want to vote Clinton at all, blatantly attempting character assasination over something so miniscule.

Why oh why do they not take the high road?

Set thier platforms and stick to it and leave competitors to thier own devices????

I despise politics for this very thing,

Oh, I should add that I would consider Clinton based on her qualifications, but not for the mudslinging, that sets her back in my mind and makes me feel as if she knows she HAS to do it in order to gain ground.
Amen to that!!!!!!
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

Isnt that what politics is all about?
Lies and corruption?
I hate politics, and the way that the government manipulates people and treats them all like puppets.
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This is what makes me NOT want to vote Clinton at all, blatantly attempting character assasination over something so miniscule.

Why oh why do they not take the high road?

Set thier platforms and stick to it and leave competitors to thier own devices????

I despise politics for this very thing,

Oh, I should add that I would consider Clinton based on her qualifications, but not for the mudslinging, that sets her back in my mind and makes me feel as if she knows she HAS to do it in order to gain ground.
She's desperate
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She should be.
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She should be.
Yes, yes she should be.

LOL.

Cerrtainly looks like her slander backfired on her.

Obama has gained even more support, I think they said 10 states in a row?

I will be gleeful when we have a person of color for the first time ever in the White House,

as a country that boasts diversity we certainly have taken long enough, next stop Woman,

But dude not Clinton, she lacks the cojones, not literally, well, yes literally... lol

But I mean if ya can't take the heat.... you know the rest
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

I think that if Condoleeza Rice were on the run at the Republican side, the thing would be on fire right now (both regards dems and reps)
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Obama Plagiarizes Speech?!

^^^ You make a good point, however with all it's diversity and equality talk, this country still has a great deal of mistrust when it comes to powerful women. Martha Stewart anyone? A presidential race betwixt (uh-huh, betwixt) 2 women is as likely as a presidential race betwixt 2 people of color.

In other words, not in our lifetime. lol
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