[AppleRose]

that's weird.

[laurie_lu]

Yep, I think I'm gonna give up on this brand.

[Carleen]

I had a bit of a problem with EDM's foundation turning darker on me throughout the day. The problem was more-so with the intensive formula, but I primarily use the original glo. Anyway, what helped for me was to buff a layer of serecite based finishing powder on before my foundation. Now, the color stays true all day (and the serecite helps to conceal my pores, as an added bonus).

Good luck!

Originally Posted by missleers

Labrat.... do you do your own grinding? Could you tell me some more about titanium dioxide and zinc oxide please? I am curious to know more about mineral makeup as oppossed to regular makeup and if it is really as promising as everyone claims.

Yes I actually do....but not for myself, but for the company I work for. I usually make traditional liquid foundations. Most of them are silicone based....meaning that the outer phase of the emulsion where the pigments are disperesed is silicone, and the inner phase (the one that's dispersed in the outer phase) is water.

So when I make a pigment grind I use a peice of equipment called a colloid mill (that's probably older then I am). It's a machine with a rotar and stader that grinds the pigment grind....and breaks up and agglomerates of pigments. When I mix the pigments with the silicones in a big beaker before I run the grind through the mill....it always looks really yellow. The yellow iron oxide is the easiest to disperse and wet out with the silicones (and oils). The red and black are much harder to disperse....so as it mills the grind become more red and more dirty. Hence why mineral foundations that contain yellow iron oxide that isn't wet out by a wetting agent....will intensify towards the yellow side when it comes in contact with the oils on your skin....

I have made my own mineral makeup before just for fun. Wanna know how?

In a blender. Yup, just a little Osterizer with a mason jar and a blade. All I used was some iron oxides, zinc oxide, micronized titanium dioxide and pigmentary titanium dioxide and mica....it probably had an SPF of at least 20-25 with that combination. All I did was throw everything into a blender and blended on high speed (liquify setting) for a few minutes...scraping the jar with a brush after each minute. It took about three minutes of blending to get the pigment agglomerates broken up......

It had great coverage....but was really draggy (hmmm....lots of titanium dioxide), and kind of drying. I guess it was okay....but I like my liquid foundation better.

[ColdDayInHell]

Originally Posted by Labrat81

Yes I actually do....but not for myself, but for the company I work for. I usually make traditional liquid foundations. Most of them are silicone based....meaning that the outer phase of the emulsion where the pigments are disperesed is silicone, and the inner phase (the one that's dispersed in the outer phase) is water.

So when I make a pigment grind I use a peice of equipment called a colloid mill (that's probably older then I am). It's a machine with a rotar and stader that grinds the pigment grind....and breaks up and agglomerates of pigments. When I mix the pigments with the silicones in a big beaker before I run the grind through the mill....it always looks really yellow. The yellow iron oxide is the easiest to disperse and wet out with the silicones (and oils). The red and black are much harder to disperse....so as it mills the grind become more red and more dirty. Hence why mineral foundations that contain yellow iron oxide that isn't wet out by a wetting agent....will intensify towards the yellow side when it comes in contact with the oils on your skin....

I have made my own mineral makeup before just for fun. Wanna know how?

In a blender. Yup, just a little Osterizer with a mason jar and a blade. All I used was some iron oxides, zinc oxide, micronized titanium dioxide and pigmentary titanium dioxide and mica....it probably had an SPF of at least 20-25 with that combination. All I did was throw everything into a blender and blended on high speed (liquify setting) for a few minutes...scraping the jar with a brush after each minute. It took about three minutes of blending to get the pigment agglomerates broken up......

It had great coverage....but was really draggy (hmmm....lots of titanium dioxide), and kind of drying. I guess it was okay....but I like my liquid foundation better.

That was interesting and informative to read.

I like to add talc and silica to get rid of that "draggy" feel in everything, from foundation to eyeshadows.

[AngelaGM]

Good luck in finding your HG! Making your own MMU sounds like hard work!

Not so much if you have a good blender at home (like and Osterizer), a decent sharp blade and a glass mason jar. If you can buy things like mica, sericite, titanium dioxide, zinc oxide, and red, yellow, and black iron oxides....it's pretty easy.

The formula is pretty simple and it will depend on the shade you are trying to make, and the coverage of the formula. You might also need an electronic kitchen scale, so you can measure the ingredients by mass, not volume since they have very different densities (even the densities of the iron oxides vary greatly by the color).

I've done this before at work using the same stuff (my scale is way more expensive than a kitchen scale, but I still use a kitchen blender).

Weigh out the ingredients and out them into the jar (or just put the jar on the scale and tare it and add them). Put the lid on, making sure to use a rubber ring, maybe even two. Put the jar on the blender and turn it on. You'll need to move the whole blender and jar around so the powders move....

You'll need to mix for about three minutes on the highest setting possible. The blender may get warm....this is normal. This will break up the agglomerates....and disperse the pigments evenly.

This might do better in the thread about making your own mineral makeup....I've gone off on a tanget yet again....