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post #31 of 76

It's usually the neon pinks and pure red shades.  And yes they will say if they are safe for eyes or not.  These unsafe colors are loose pigments usually and are sold from places like TKB.  They are used for soaps or are safe for face and lips but not eyes..

 

That person's mom may be allergic to Carmine which is in most red/pink colors.  It's pretty common to be sensitive to that.

post #32 of 76
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Originally Posted by SarraSanborn View Post

That's really good to know. Is it mentioned on the pigments at all?
 


 

 


Most fakes will either not list the ingredients or list bogus ingredients. That's why it's buy at your own risk.

 

http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/ColorAdditives/ColorAdditiveInventories/UCM106626

 

Color Additives Permitted for Use in Cosmetics: Table

 

Color Additives That Are Exempt from Certification and Permitted for Use in Cosmetics
(21 CFR Part 73 Subpart C—Cosmetics)
Color Additive Eye Area Generally
(Includes
Lipsticks)
External Use Specific Limitations
and Comments
21 CFR
Section
Aluminum powder Yes No Yes   73.2645
Annatto Yes Yes Yes   73.2030
Bismuth citrate No No Subject to limitations Hair on the scalp 73.2110
Bismuth oxychloride Yes Yes Yes   73.2162
Bronze powder Yes Yes Yes   73.2646
Caramel Yes Yes Yes   73.2085
Carmine Yes Yes Yes   73.2087
β-Carotene Yes Yes Yes   73.2095
Chromium hydroxide green Yes No Yes   73.2326
Chromium oxide greens Yes No Yes   73.2327
Copper powder Yes Yes Yes   73.2647
Dihydroxyacetone No No Subject to limitations For use in tanning preparations 73.2150
Disodium EDTA-copper No No Subject to limitations Shampoos 73.2120
Ferric ammonium ferrocyanide Yes No Yes   73.2298
Ferric ferrocyanide Yes No Yes   73.2299
Guaiazulene No No Yes   73.2180
Guanine Yes Yes Yes   73.2329
Henna No No Subject to limitations Hair on the scalp 73.2190
Iron oxides Yes Yes Yes   73.2250
Lead acetate No No Subject to limitations Hair on the scalp; ≤0.6% lead 73.2396
Luminescent zinc sulfide No No Subject to limitations Externally applied facial makeup and nail polish; <10%; for infrequent use (e.g., Halloween) 73.2995
Manganese violet Yes Yes Yes   73.2775
Mica Yes Yes Yes   73.2496
Potassium sodium copper chlorophyllin (chlorophyllin-copper complex) No No Subject to limitations Dentifrices; ≤0.1% 73.2125
Pyrophyllite No No Yes   73.2400
Silver No No Subject to limitations Fingernail polish; ≤1% 73.2500
Titanium dioxide Yes Yes Yes   73.2575
Ultramarines Yes No Yes   73.2725
Zinc oxide Yes Yes Yes   73.2991

 


Color Additives That Are Subject to Certification and Permitted for Use in Cosmetics*
Includes Straight Colors and Lakes
(21 CFR Part 74 Subpart C—Cosmetics, and 21 CFR Part 82 Subpart C--Drugs and Cosmetics and Subpart D--Externally Applied Drugs and Cosmetics)
Color Additive Eye Area** Generally
(Includes
Lipsticks)
External Use Specific Limitations
and Comments
21 CFR
Section
D&C Black No. 2 Subject to Limitations Subject to Limitations Subject to Limitations Eyeliner, brush-on-brow, eye shadow, mascara, lipstick, blushers & rouge, makeup & foundation, nail enamel 74.2052
D&C Black No. 3 Subject to Limitations No Subject to Limitations Eyeliner, eye shadow, mascara, face powder 74.2053
FD&C Blue No. 1 Yes, also Al lake Yes Yes   74.2101
D&C Blue No. 4 No No Yes   74.2104
D&C Brown No. 1 No No Yes   74.2151
FD&C Green No. 3 No Yes Yes   74.2203
D&C Green No. 5 Yes Yes Yes   74.2205
D&C Green No. 6 No No Yes   74.2206
D&C Green No. 8 No No Subject to Limitations ≤0.01% 74.2208
D&C Orange No. 4 No No Yes   74.2254
D&C Orange No. 5 No Subject to Limitations Yes Mouthwashes, dentifrices; ≤5% for lipsticks 74.2255
D&C Orange No. 10 No No Yes   74.2260
D&C Orange No. 11 No No Yes   74.2261
FD&C Red No. 4 No No Yes   74.2304
D&C Red No. 6 No Yes Yes   74.2306
D&C Red No. 7 No Yes Yes   74.2307
D&C Red No. 17 No No Yes   74.2317
D&C Red No. 21 No Yes Yes   74.2321
D&C Red No. 22 No Yes Yes   74.2322
D&C Red No. 27 No Yes Yes   74.2327
D&C Red No. 28 No Yes Yes   74.2328
D&C Red No. 30 No Yes Yes   74.2330
D&C Red No. 31 No No Yes   74.2331
D&C Red No. 33 No Subject to Limitations Yes Lipstick products ≤3%; mouthwash, dentrifices 74.2333
D&C Red No. 34 No No Yes   74.2334
D&C Red No. 36 No Subject to Limitations Yes Lipstick products ≤3% 74.2336
FD&C Red No. 40 Yes, also Al lake Yes Yes   74.2340
D&C Violet No. 2 No No Yes   74.2602
Ext. D&C Violet No. 2 No No Yes   74.2602a
FD&C Yellow No. 5 Yes, also Al lake Yes Yes   74.2705
FD&C Yellow No. 6 No Yes Yes   74.2706
D&C Yellow No. 7 No No Yes   74.2707
Ext. D&C Yellow No. 7 No No Yes   74.2707a
D&C Yellow No. 8 No No Yes   74.2708
D&C Yellow No. 10 No Yes Yes   74.2710
D&C Yellow No. 11 No No Yes   74.2711

 

*Includes straight colors and lakes 

**Excludes lakes except where noted. Only aluminum lakes on alumina are permitted for designated lakes.

post #33 of 76
Some brands include a paper insert stating what colors are eye safe. Makeup forever products say on the bottom which colors are eye or lip safe. Sometimes there is a picture of an eye or lips with an x or slash across it. You should be able to check on the product's website as well. Many pigments that are red pink and orange are not safe for the eyes or lips, I've also seen a few blue products that are not lip safe but ok for the eyes. I dont get the difference between the lip and eye but that that's according to the company and their policies which are probably more geared towards covering their tracks than anything else.

Technically all the MAC glitters are not eye safe if you look at the box it will say on most. I one used a glitter on the inner corners of my eye and my eyes were really itchy and red (not so cute) that's when I looked it up. I do still use glitter just a small amount on the upper part of the lid with a fluffy brush, eyes closed, then I brush off excesses while keeping my eyes closed. This just gives a little more shine and dimension while still keeping my eyes safe. If I really want some sparkly eyes now I just use rhinestones with clear eyelash glue.

Sparkle on everyone!
post #34 of 76

That's so helpful everyone! Thanks for the info on the red/pink issue. I have a pigment in Magenta Madness from MAC, do you think it's safe for the eye?

post #35 of 76

MAC would say if it was safe or not.  However it might contain Carmine !

post #36 of 76

It's usually the smaller shady companies or resellers who will not label stuff as safe or not

post #37 of 76

It said nothing about it, but I will definitely check to make sure. :o

post #38 of 76

Carmine is safe, it's just creepy haha

post #39 of 76

The "fake" is not similat at all.  Ive seen them, they dont have the chunks of glitter or the color payoff like the real thing.  

post #40 of 76

I love fake mac, because its the same quality. I got the Well Dressed blush as my first one from ebay, thinking it was real. I knew it wasnt as i had known there was fake mac and compared it to other blushes of mine, obviously fake. But the quality is better on some, some worse. For instance, the fake hello kitty collection is not good quality, except for a palette or two. Regular mac in the permanent collection is basically the exact same product. Even glitter pigments are sometimes good. Save your money and go for fake mac, its seriously the same stuff.

 

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post #41 of 76
I purchased 2 fakes which I didn't know because it was my first time buying Mac, foundation went on nicely no reaction for a week already
this pic is the original with out effects I'm wearing the Mac lady GaGa foundation, pro long wear Concealer (the real one), with Ben nye I have been using the fake Mac lady GaGa for a week no reactions, should I continue buying it, its $15, for the compact $10 they sale this at the biggest flea market here in GA
post #42 of 76

You take the risk but the fact is when it's a counterfeit product you're supporting an illegal (it's a Felony in the US to sell counterfeit products). You don't know what's in it. I believe it was Inside Edition who did a story on counterfeit products which found that many counterfeit products contained lead, fecal matter along with bacteria. Buy and use at your own risk. Personally, I wouldn't buy it because there are legitimate products on the market that you can buy for the same amount of money. Why pay that much for a fake when you can buy a legitimate non-MAC product for the same or less?

post #43 of 76
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Originally Posted by Annelle View Post


Usually in terms of buying off ebay or such, fake MAC means that it's not really MAC in container nor product. You buy it believing that you'll get MAC, and you receive a fake instead.  Because you don't even know who made it, you won't know if it's safe, clean, or good quality.  (Think trick-or-treating and getting a Snickers bar vs getting some homemade chocolate covered sweet from a stranger...you really have no idea if it'll taste any good or if it's even safe to eat.)

But isn't it true that if you order any makeup off Ebay or other places on the Internet other than the actual manufacturer, you don't know if it is safe or clean anyway? That's a risk of purchasing online.

And, ethically, purchasing fake anything deprives the original company of profits. It would be like someone stealing your idea and making money off of it.
post #44 of 76

That's true. You do take the risk but EBay is known for people selling counterfeit products which is why if you type in mac cosmetics the vast majority of products are fake. Personally I think it's TOO much of a risk to take because you don't know what's IN counterfeit products.

post #45 of 76

I'm pretty judgy about people who knowingly purchase counterfeit makeup because I feel like you have complete disregard for your health or unknowing to what you're putting on your face. I'd rather get one real lip glass for $15 than 5 fake ones for the same price. Or, I'd even rather purchase 4 drugstore items. Those are FDA-approved and safe to put on your face. You can request a list of ingredients (if not included) & get them. If you buy off some random vendor, you may never have your questions answered and could be putting God-knows-what on your face. That's not a risk I'd be willing to take. Even if I didn't have a bad reaction, I would discontinue use and never purchase from that person again. I wouldn't willingly want to participate in that illegal (and dangerous) activity.... Who knows how that stuff was made. sadno.gif

post #46 of 76
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Originally Posted by MakeupofDesire View Post

I have purchased both authentic and fake MAC products from Ebay.  I have to honestly say that there really isn't a difference! Still very pigmented and applies and blends nicely. What's wrong with that? NOTHING! You get to save your money for more products!! The thing that you have to worry about with fake MAC is making sure that the sender is trustworthy enough to actually send your order! You don't need to worry about the quality of the product, it really can pass for real, in my experience. I've saved lots of money and I have lots of products. (most are authentic tho).

I agree with your theory but I wonder about the ingredients that is why I never buy the fake MAC stuff

post #47 of 76
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Originally Posted by AndreaRenee View Post

I don't really see the point in knowingly buying fake Mac, if you don't want to spend a lot of money why not buy good drugstore products?

At least then you know what you're getting and you're not putting possible unhygienic/unsafe products on your skin, or supporting someone who's scamming others.

If I bought a product that ended up being fake, I would take it as a loss and throw it out.


I completely agree. Its all just people wanting to say "I own Mac". But they really just own fake MAC. Its like buying a fake designer handbag. Its fake, not real so there is nothing special about it. I would rather buy a quality product with a corporation standing behind it then a counterfeit product or one that has something wrong with it.

 

Also I think a lot of people are not realizing how cheap pigments are to purchase wholesale. They might not have the MAC name on them, but its most likely what people are getting in their fake MAC purchases (except with a markup so the seller can make a profit).

post #48 of 76

I'll never understand the point of buying fake mac if you know you're buying fake mac. If you're sincerely looking for cheaper makeup, then go to a place like Inglot where at least you don't have to worry about what random fake manufacturer in whatevercountry is putting into the product you're buying. Besides, MAC has been building up a bad reputation as of late for repromoting the same things multiple times a year and bumping up the prices. Why in heavens would you want fake MAC knowing this?

 

Either buy real stuff or buy from another brand. It's that simple. Besides, no matter how good your fake is, anyone who likes mac will be able to tell you that you own a fake. So it's fooling no one.

post #49 of 76
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Originally Posted by ScarletNight View Post

I'll never understand the point of buying fake mac if you know you're buying fake mac. If you're sincerely looking for cheaper makeup, then go to a place like Inglot where at least you don't have to worry about what random fake manufacturer in whatevercountry is putting into the product you're buying. Besides, MAC has been building up a bad reputation as of late for repromoting the same things multiple times a year and bumping up the prices. Why in heavens would you want fake MAC knowing this?

 

Either buy real stuff or buy from another brand. It's that simple. Besides, no matter how good your fake is, anyone who likes mac will be able to tell you that you own a fake. So it's fooling no one.

 

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Originally Posted by 19ten20 View Post


I completely agree. Its all just people wanting to say "I own Mac". But they really just own fake MAC. Its like buying a fake designer handbag. Its fake, not real so there is nothing special about it. I would rather buy a quality product with a corporation standing behind it then a counterfeit product or one that has something wrong with it.

 

Also I think a lot of people are not realizing how cheap pigments are to purchase wholesale. They might not have the MAC name on them, but its most likely what people are getting in their fake MAC purchases (except with a markup so the seller can make a profit).

 

 

 

 

I SO TOTALLY AGREEEEE.

post #50 of 76
[IMG][IMG] ordered at maccosmetics.com is this real?? Barcode is a sticker so is the letter the number of color
post #51 of 76
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Originally Posted by hvnlyflwr View Post

ordered at maccosmetics.com is this real?? Barcode is a sticker so is the letter the number of color

 

If you ordered it from www.maccosmetics.com then it's real since that's M•A•C's website.

post #52 of 76
Thank u so much, I just didn't want to make the same mistake.
post #53 of 76
ok so the color i got nw18 turned out to be lighter then my face, its hard to really tell without it being up close and personal. im a tan color and in the summer im a little darker, what color should i go for in the mineralized foundation??
post #54 of 76
Why don't you go to a MAC counter and get matched?
post #55 of 76
well i would if there was one, but its an hour from me :/
post #56 of 76
How much lighter is the foundation than your skin? Maybe you can do a return and try going up a few shades? At some point, you should look into getting matched in person, makes it much easier for you to shop.
post #57 of 76

hya can u please send me some links to where i can buy fake mac makeup as ive had some off a friend and i find them fab and alot cheaper!!!! cheers xx

post #58 of 76
My cousin referred me to a lady selling MAC at cheap prices, I figured she was a makeup artist or something I didn't know there an underground market selling knock offs! I decided to buy some anyways, I bought 3 brushes, mineralized powder, lipgloss and three lipsticks also a pigment, the quality of the powder was very chalky, the mineralized bronzer was decent, the lipsticks were great but not pigmented like the real stuff, for 8 a lipstick they were a good buy, all in all I'd say buy the real Mac the quality is worth the extra money!
post #59 of 76

http://www.macmakeupgod.com/ This site is fake right?  I mean obviously those prices are too good to be true and some of the packaging/products don't look right.

 

I never realized that "fake" brand name makeup was made until reading this thread.  Where have I been haha.

post #60 of 76

Yup. Hong Kong fakes.

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