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It doesnt matter what you think of him the healthcare in this country sucks.
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Originally Posted by emily_3383 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It doesnt matter what you think of him the healthcare in this country sucks.
I agree that something should be done too
It doesnt matter what you think of him the healthcare in this country sucks.
I agree that something should be done too
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wow that does suck amanda. i feel sorry for her. when my mom went through chemo it cost thousands and thousands..and she was insured but that still doesnt count for everything..
i know that you have to wait FOREVER to get a simple perscription here (atleast what my bf has shared) i remember him going to the doctors to get a refill on his meds an he'd be gone hours. and if he actually had to go to the doctor, forget it, he'd be gone all day. it's nice to have the option though, if i have dual citizenship some day i will def be taking advantage of it..
by the way celly canada has it free, and canada also has phils rich brother
i know that you have to wait FOREVER to get a simple perscription here (atleast what my bf has shared) i remember him going to the doctors to get a refill on his meds an he'd be gone hours. and if he actually had to go to the doctor, forget it, he'd be gone all day. it's nice to have the option though, if i have dual citizenship some day i will def be taking advantage of it..
by the way celly canada has it free, and canada also has phils rich brother
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Benebaby, you know there are foundations out there that will help pay for this, at least a part of it. Also, any good hospital will offer financial assistance.
I have seen one movie from Michael Moore and i liked it. I haven't seen Sicko and I don't know enough about his stuff to form an opinion.
Also, I can't relate to any one who has health care bills. I get free health care for life (where ever I go too), so I don't have any advice.
I have seen one movie from Michael Moore and i liked it. I haven't seen Sicko and I don't know enough about his stuff to form an opinion.
Also, I can't relate to any one who has health care bills. I get free health care for life (where ever I go too), so I don't have any advice.
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It is true that here in the U.S. - medicine is one of the best money can buy and I can say that from personal experience with my family.
However, I must say that I know some people who cant afford the plane ticket to get here like my family, or if they did, would have used up all of their money to afford whatever treatment they seek out. This system supports those who can afford it. Its the capitalism survival of the fittest.
Its not like every person out there has some hardcore illness (which is why people would want to come here to the US for treatment) but when it comes down to common illnesses such as colds, fevers or even a check-up and what nots, why do I still have to pay up the yinyang for that?
However, I must say that I know some people who cant afford the plane ticket to get here like my family, or if they did, would have used up all of their money to afford whatever treatment they seek out. This system supports those who can afford it. Its the capitalism survival of the fittest.
Its not like every person out there has some hardcore illness (which is why people would want to come here to the US for treatment) but when it comes down to common illnesses such as colds, fevers or even a check-up and what nots, why do I still have to pay up the yinyang for that?
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Originally Posted by Tony(admin) /img/forum/go_quote.gif We'll allow this thread as long as it doesn't turn political (since we know Mr Moore is a political wannabe) or personal attacks are kept out.
I don't know about Mr Moore's sicko movie at all, but I do know that he's an idiotic, hater of Americans and propagandist/lier and not what the US people stand for. If you believe and fall for his untruths, you should check yourself. You will never see famous leftists siding with him.(my only political part of this reply)
Believe me, you DON'T want free health care or socialized medicine, an option MIGHT be ok. I could write novels on this subject. Why do you think so many people come to the US to get health care? Cuz it's the best in the world, hands down(no offense to other countries). In Finland, where they have socialized medicine, people with any sort of money don't even THINK about using the free health care. They pay for it and the reason is that the health care is better. Reija has told me nightmares about their system. She could write a book on it since she has had a few surgeries for her Chrohn's disease. Plus, when she had teeth cavities filled in school, the use NO NOVACAINE. Free sounds so easy and cool but why have it if the care sucks? On another subject, I have some insider information that two major hospitals in Los Angeles will announce closing in the next 60-90 days, due to money issues....mostly cuz of illegals using the emergency room when they have a cold and never paying their bills.
The US has some serious issues on this subject, I can admit that.
IMHO, the US will never moved to free health care, the drug companies and the medical industry are all about money/ big business.
I agree with every word Tony.
I would like to add that nothing in life is free. Nationalized healthcare will cost everyone who actually pays taxes. The only way to support the BILLIONS of dollars nationalized healthcare would cost per year would be to take the money from each of us. Of course, the people who don't pay taxes will once again gain from the taxpayers.
I'm not saying the "free" healthcare will be good either. Just last week on Bill O'Reilly's radio show a woman from Canada called in talking about her son that died because her son's doctor appointment was 6 months away. If he had been diagnosed right away he would have lived. Next her husband got sick. Guess what they did? They came to the US to get a diagnosis and treatment for him. He got better. She said they would NEVER use Canada's "FREE" healthcare again. Free isn't worth anything if you're dead.
Don't forget about the crooks that make a living off of suing doctors. With nationalized healthcare the doctors, nurses and everyone else in the hospitals will work for the government. Who will the crooks or even the people that actually get hurt by a doctor sue? The US government will be the entity getting sued. Go ahead and add another billion dollars a year to that FREE healthcare bill for all of those malpractice suits.
Free healthcare is not the answer. Congress should put regulations on "ambulance chaser" lawyers and crooks that sue to STEAL money. These people are part of the reason for the high cost of healthcare. When people sue (fraudulently or legitimately) the doctors (if they lose) must pay against their malpractice insurance. That raises their insurance rates. To supplement those costs doctors raise their rates. When the doctors raise their rates, guess what?? The insurance companies raise OUR rates. I know this isn't all of it, but it is a big part of it.
As Tony said, and I totally agree, don't believe what Michael Moore says. He's nothing but a radical left-winger that wants government to GIVE everything to people that won't work for a good life and penalize people who do.
Originally Posted by emily_3383 /img/forum/go_quote.gif It doesnt matter what you think of him the healthcare in this country sucks. Why does it "suck"?
I don't know about Mr Moore's sicko movie at all, but I do know that he's an idiotic, hater of Americans and propagandist/lier and not what the US people stand for. If you believe and fall for his untruths, you should check yourself. You will never see famous leftists siding with him.(my only political part of this reply)
Believe me, you DON'T want free health care or socialized medicine, an option MIGHT be ok. I could write novels on this subject. Why do you think so many people come to the US to get health care? Cuz it's the best in the world, hands down(no offense to other countries). In Finland, where they have socialized medicine, people with any sort of money don't even THINK about using the free health care. They pay for it and the reason is that the health care is better. Reija has told me nightmares about their system. She could write a book on it since she has had a few surgeries for her Chrohn's disease. Plus, when she had teeth cavities filled in school, the use NO NOVACAINE. Free sounds so easy and cool but why have it if the care sucks? On another subject, I have some insider information that two major hospitals in Los Angeles will announce closing in the next 60-90 days, due to money issues....mostly cuz of illegals using the emergency room when they have a cold and never paying their bills.
The US has some serious issues on this subject, I can admit that.
IMHO, the US will never moved to free health care, the drug companies and the medical industry are all about money/ big business.
I agree with every word Tony.
I would like to add that nothing in life is free. Nationalized healthcare will cost everyone who actually pays taxes. The only way to support the BILLIONS of dollars nationalized healthcare would cost per year would be to take the money from each of us. Of course, the people who don't pay taxes will once again gain from the taxpayers.
I'm not saying the "free" healthcare will be good either. Just last week on Bill O'Reilly's radio show a woman from Canada called in talking about her son that died because her son's doctor appointment was 6 months away. If he had been diagnosed right away he would have lived. Next her husband got sick. Guess what they did? They came to the US to get a diagnosis and treatment for him. He got better. She said they would NEVER use Canada's "FREE" healthcare again. Free isn't worth anything if you're dead.
Don't forget about the crooks that make a living off of suing doctors. With nationalized healthcare the doctors, nurses and everyone else in the hospitals will work for the government. Who will the crooks or even the people that actually get hurt by a doctor sue? The US government will be the entity getting sued. Go ahead and add another billion dollars a year to that FREE healthcare bill for all of those malpractice suits.
Free healthcare is not the answer. Congress should put regulations on "ambulance chaser" lawyers and crooks that sue to STEAL money. These people are part of the reason for the high cost of healthcare. When people sue (fraudulently or legitimately) the doctors (if they lose) must pay against their malpractice insurance. That raises their insurance rates. To supplement those costs doctors raise their rates. When the doctors raise their rates, guess what?? The insurance companies raise OUR rates. I know this isn't all of it, but it is a big part of it.
As Tony said, and I totally agree, don't believe what Michael Moore says. He's nothing but a radical left-winger that wants government to GIVE everything to people that won't work for a good life and penalize people who do.
Originally Posted by emily_3383 /img/forum/go_quote.gif It doesnt matter what you think of him the healthcare in this country sucks. Why does it "suck"?
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Originally Posted by Saje /img/forum/go_quote.gif It is true that here in the U.S. - medicine is one of the best money can buy and I can say that from personal experience with my family.
However, I must say that I know some people who cant afford the plane ticket to get here like my family, or if they did, would have used up all of their money to afford whatever treatment they seek out. This system supports those who can afford it. Its the capitalism survival of the fittest.
Its not like every person out there has some hardcore illness (which is why people would want to come here to the US for treatment) but when it comes down to common illnesses such as colds, fevers or even a check-up and what nots, why do I still have to pay up the yinyang for that?
I think that sums up my whole feeling best thusvfar.We do have the best resources, best doctors yada yada - but when it comes to like you said, "common illnesses" or check-ups/follow-ups, certain emergency stays - all that should be free. I don't mind if it's taken out of my taxes, I mean... a whole bunch of money is already taken away on I don' know what now. Fixing roads?
Everyone should be covered no matter what. Millions of us are living without it...if it cost billions of more out of our taxes in order for everyone one to be insured, so what? We're talking about the people who get declined treatments or can't afford it...we're talking about people period.
Forgot to mention, the prices are ridiculous high for surgeries and even simple visits. $300 for my TB shot? Oh, I'm so no over that... they basically take a tiny needle and blow air or something into my arm. And that's it. $300 dollars bill next week. My friend has anxiety and his visit to the Doctor cost him $100 for water and tylenol. Bah.
Here's a little exceprt from the Oprah show:
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Princeton University professor Uwe Reinhardt, one of the nation's leading authorities on healthcare economics, says the healthcare debate all boils down to a single question. "Should the child of a gas station attendant have the same chance of staying healthy or getting cured, if sick, as the child of a corporate executive?" he asks.
Professor Reinhardt says people need to decide whether medical care should be like public education—where every American simply has a right to it—or if it should be treated like a luxury good. Currently, he says healthcare is like fine dining…if you have the money, you get it, and if you don't, you won't.
When hurricanes or other natural disasters hit, Professor Reinhardt says the government steps in to help victims. "That's social insurance," he says. "It's a natural disaster, and I would say if a lady in Mississippi has breast cancer, isn't that a natural disaster, too?"
As Michael points out in Sicko, Americans rely on many socialized services, like the police department, public libraries and the fire department. The U.S. Army even provides socialized medicine for all enlisted men. "I'd like to call it Christianized medicine because this is what Jesus would do, right?" he says. "He wouldn't let the child of a gas station attendant go without."
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As consumers, Americans shop around for everything from cars to clothes and computers, but Professor Reinhardt says we are powerless when it comes to buying healthcare.
"Suppose I took you to [a department store], blindfolded you, pushed you through the door and said, 'Find yourself a nice blouse that fits you and make sure the price is right.' That's roughly how we buy healthcare," he says. "If you go to the hospital, what do you know about the prices? What do you know you will get? Have you ever picked your own anesthesiologist?"
It's time to simplify things, Professor Reinhardt says. In addition to current plans, he says the government should mandate that every insurance company offer the same standard package. "[Then] there wouldn't be any question of what is covered or what isn't covered," he says.
To get healthcare coverage for every man, woman and child in the United States, Professor Reinhardt believes it would cost about $100 billion in additional government spending. That's the same amount the government spends in nine months to fund the war in Iraq, he says.
It seems like a lot of money…until you look at what Americans are spending billions on every year. According to our research, consumers spend $3 billion a year on custom ringtones for cell phones, $45 billion on lottery tickets, $94 billion on beer and $537 billion in restaurants.
However, I must say that I know some people who cant afford the plane ticket to get here like my family, or if they did, would have used up all of their money to afford whatever treatment they seek out. This system supports those who can afford it. Its the capitalism survival of the fittest.
Its not like every person out there has some hardcore illness (which is why people would want to come here to the US for treatment) but when it comes down to common illnesses such as colds, fevers or even a check-up and what nots, why do I still have to pay up the yinyang for that?
I think that sums up my whole feeling best thusvfar.We do have the best resources, best doctors yada yada - but when it comes to like you said, "common illnesses" or check-ups/follow-ups, certain emergency stays - all that should be free. I don't mind if it's taken out of my taxes, I mean... a whole bunch of money is already taken away on I don' know what now. Fixing roads?
Everyone should be covered no matter what. Millions of us are living without it...if it cost billions of more out of our taxes in order for everyone one to be insured, so what? We're talking about the people who get declined treatments or can't afford it...we're talking about people period.
Forgot to mention, the prices are ridiculous high for surgeries and even simple visits. $300 for my TB shot? Oh, I'm so no over that... they basically take a tiny needle and blow air or something into my arm. And that's it. $300 dollars bill next week. My friend has anxiety and his visit to the Doctor cost him $100 for water and tylenol. Bah.
Here's a little exceprt from the Oprah show:
Quote:
Princeton University professor Uwe Reinhardt, one of the nation's leading authorities on healthcare economics, says the healthcare debate all boils down to a single question. "Should the child of a gas station attendant have the same chance of staying healthy or getting cured, if sick, as the child of a corporate executive?" he asks.
Professor Reinhardt says people need to decide whether medical care should be like public education—where every American simply has a right to it—or if it should be treated like a luxury good. Currently, he says healthcare is like fine dining…if you have the money, you get it, and if you don't, you won't.
When hurricanes or other natural disasters hit, Professor Reinhardt says the government steps in to help victims. "That's social insurance," he says. "It's a natural disaster, and I would say if a lady in Mississippi has breast cancer, isn't that a natural disaster, too?"
As Michael points out in Sicko, Americans rely on many socialized services, like the police department, public libraries and the fire department. The U.S. Army even provides socialized medicine for all enlisted men. "I'd like to call it Christianized medicine because this is what Jesus would do, right?" he says. "He wouldn't let the child of a gas station attendant go without."
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"Suppose I took you to [a department store], blindfolded you, pushed you through the door and said, 'Find yourself a nice blouse that fits you and make sure the price is right.' That's roughly how we buy healthcare," he says. "If you go to the hospital, what do you know about the prices? What do you know you will get? Have you ever picked your own anesthesiologist?"
It's time to simplify things, Professor Reinhardt says. In addition to current plans, he says the government should mandate that every insurance company offer the same standard package. "[Then] there wouldn't be any question of what is covered or what isn't covered," he says.
To get healthcare coverage for every man, woman and child in the United States, Professor Reinhardt believes it would cost about $100 billion in additional government spending. That's the same amount the government spends in nine months to fund the war in Iraq, he says.
It seems like a lot of money…until you look at what Americans are spending billions on every year. According to our research, consumers spend $3 billion a year on custom ringtones for cell phones, $45 billion on lottery tickets, $94 billion on beer and $537 billion in restaurants.
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I have heard about the movie but haven't seen it yet.
I live in Canada where medical care is free. Some Provinces you pay a yearly or monthly fee? but I believe it is low. Maybe MUT members in other Provinces can divulge this information since I don't know much the details.
Where I live I don't pay anything. It has advantages and disadvantages. If I want to see a specialist I may have to wait anywhere from 6 months to a year (emergency you would see one immediately) People who need hip and knee replacements are on a two to three year waiting list for surgery. The Gov't is attempting to change this.This is in my Province. I know other Provinces probably experience similar problems. There is a shortage of family doctors and specialists. If Canadians have the money they do go to the USA for treatment, many become frustrated with the long waits. My dad's friend was frustrated waiting for his knee to be replaced in our Province, couldn't afford the cost of surgery in the USA, so he headed to India because the price of surgery was cheaper. He said the care was really good and no problems occured.
I was lucky that a new surgeon recently moved to my city. It didn't take long for an appt since she just started working here and my wait for surgery was only a few months. A cancellation came up so I had it sooner than expected. Otherwise I was looking at a year wait to see a plastic surgeon just for a consultation.
The drawbacks are the long waits but I am also glad that I don't have to worry about medical bills and payment.
I live in Canada where medical care is free. Some Provinces you pay a yearly or monthly fee? but I believe it is low. Maybe MUT members in other Provinces can divulge this information since I don't know much the details.
Where I live I don't pay anything. It has advantages and disadvantages. If I want to see a specialist I may have to wait anywhere from 6 months to a year (emergency you would see one immediately) People who need hip and knee replacements are on a two to three year waiting list for surgery. The Gov't is attempting to change this.This is in my Province. I know other Provinces probably experience similar problems. There is a shortage of family doctors and specialists. If Canadians have the money they do go to the USA for treatment, many become frustrated with the long waits. My dad's friend was frustrated waiting for his knee to be replaced in our Province, couldn't afford the cost of surgery in the USA, so he headed to India because the price of surgery was cheaper. He said the care was really good and no problems occured.
I was lucky that a new surgeon recently moved to my city. It didn't take long for an appt since she just started working here and my wait for surgery was only a few months. A cancellation came up so I had it sooner than expected. Otherwise I was looking at a year wait to see a plastic surgeon just for a consultation.
The drawbacks are the long waits but I am also glad that I don't have to worry about medical bills and payment.
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Originally Posted by katnahat /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why does it "suck"? Why doesn't it suck?? Sure we have the best Doctors the most advanced treatment...blah blah. But what good does it do if a majority of our citizens cannot afford it???? It's like having a Luxury Hotel in the Ghetto. It looks nice, too bad nobody stays in it and it's a waste.
Sure we have some programs like Medi-Cal. But Medi-Cal barely covers the minimum. Plus you get shitty treatment because people don't care..they want their $$$. Just a few weeks ago my 93 year old Great Grandmother, who was a Nurse with Kaiser, had to get new dentures. She is a widow, lives on Social Security and uses Medi-Cal/Denti-Cal. They sent her to a Dental School to get her dentures. The Students made the MOST awful teeth. They were HUGE and ill fitting. She ended up developing sores where the too large teeth were rubbing. The Denti-cal would not provide new teeth. So....she had to go several months without, until she could save up to replace them. Now that is a former healthcare worker....is that fair?
The whole thing disgusts me. I don't expect anything to be Free. But people in the most powerful country in the World are suffering because of Greed. Sure...Survival of the Fittest. Too bad many of the "Fittest" are rich ***holes who don't deserve it, who lie, cheat and steal to get to the top. While hard working Blue collar Americans can't make ends meet. Somehow...that doesn't seem right.
Sure we have some programs like Medi-Cal. But Medi-Cal barely covers the minimum. Plus you get shitty treatment because people don't care..they want their $$$. Just a few weeks ago my 93 year old Great Grandmother, who was a Nurse with Kaiser, had to get new dentures. She is a widow, lives on Social Security and uses Medi-Cal/Denti-Cal. They sent her to a Dental School to get her dentures. The Students made the MOST awful teeth. They were HUGE and ill fitting. She ended up developing sores where the too large teeth were rubbing. The Denti-cal would not provide new teeth. So....she had to go several months without, until she could save up to replace them. Now that is a former healthcare worker....is that fair?
The whole thing disgusts me. I don't expect anything to be Free. But people in the most powerful country in the World are suffering because of Greed. Sure...Survival of the Fittest. Too bad many of the "Fittest" are rich ***holes who don't deserve it, who lie, cheat and steal to get to the top. While hard working Blue collar Americans can't make ends meet. Somehow...that doesn't seem right.
Wow all of this makes me really sad. Celly, $300 for a shot??? That is beyond ridiculous. Here I could just go to the pharmacy and order the vaccine and ask a friend from med school to give me the shot.
Austrian healthcare is not free, you have to pay for insurance, but the costs are somewhat low. Insurance covers almost everything (and you only pay a small percent of the total cost) which includes surgeries, dental procedure, specialty doctor visits, psychotherapy etc. And genereal check ups once a year are even completely free!
Of course our health system has been struggling with its finances for years. Mostly cause people abused it by applying for weeklong stays at medical spas and other stuff they didn´t really need. It was always paid for, which is ridiculous. Thank god that has changed now.
99% of the Austrian population is covered by health insurance. Everyone who can´t afford to make the monthly payments is covered by the government.
As much as I love the US and still wish to live there one day, it´s really really sad that some people who are sick and need treatment can´t get it because they are afraid of the costs and the debt.
Health should not be a priviledge of the wealthy!
Austrian healthcare is not free, you have to pay for insurance, but the costs are somewhat low. Insurance covers almost everything (and you only pay a small percent of the total cost) which includes surgeries, dental procedure, specialty doctor visits, psychotherapy etc. And genereal check ups once a year are even completely free!
Of course our health system has been struggling with its finances for years. Mostly cause people abused it by applying for weeklong stays at medical spas and other stuff they didn´t really need. It was always paid for, which is ridiculous. Thank god that has changed now.
99% of the Austrian population is covered by health insurance. Everyone who can´t afford to make the monthly payments is covered by the government.
As much as I love the US and still wish to live there one day, it´s really really sad that some people who are sick and need treatment can´t get it because they are afraid of the costs and the debt.
Health should not be a priviledge of the wealthy!
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I went to the Doctors last December for a cold I've had in over a month.
My cough was persistent and then I developed side pains that wouldn't go away.
I was so scared the bills were going to be insane for my mom so I really did not want to burden her and just bought a bunch of over the counter stuff until my side-pains developed. So we opted for a family doctor, finally.
Told me I was close to developing pneumonia because of my bronchitis and my side-pains were prolly kidney stones. Bah. So, seriously - I did not think about the pain... I thought about the bills. I don't know how much the visit ending up costing...
...my bronchitis went away in a few days and the pains subsided soon there after.
I just hate worrying about the bills before my health. How pathetic, huh?
My cough was persistent and then I developed side pains that wouldn't go away.
I was so scared the bills were going to be insane for my mom so I really did not want to burden her and just bought a bunch of over the counter stuff until my side-pains developed. So we opted for a family doctor, finally.
Told me I was close to developing pneumonia because of my bronchitis and my side-pains were prolly kidney stones. Bah. So, seriously - I did not think about the pain... I thought about the bills. I don't know how much the visit ending up costing...
...my bronchitis went away in a few days and the pains subsided soon there after.
I just hate worrying about the bills before my health. How pathetic, huh?
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I am certainly not anywhere near wealthy. No one in my family is. But my family has always had health insurance (even when my parents had to buy it themselves...not through their work).
Personally, I just don't see how people who can't afford doctor's visits are totally fine with paying higher taxes to pay for a "free" healthcare system.
Personally, I just don't see how people who can't afford doctor's visits are totally fine with paying higher taxes to pay for a "free" healthcare system.
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Shelley repeated what this lady said on Oprah (lol), although some countries have free healthcare there is a long waiting list so that must suck too. Idk its what they said. lol
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How much are taken out of a check for taxes?
Me - about $30/$40 per check.
How much for visits to the doctor?
Hundreds/Thousands depends on what happens, what is given.
Personally, I rather have those what, $5 or more (obviously it's more depending on how much you make, but I don't make much) being taken out of my check if that means I get free healthcare. Then so be it. I rather pay that extra $5 bucks than oppose to $300 if I didn't.
Me - about $30/$40 per check.
How much for visits to the doctor?
Hundreds/Thousands depends on what happens, what is given.
Personally, I rather have those what, $5 or more (obviously it's more depending on how much you make, but I don't make much) being taken out of my check if that means I get free healthcare. Then so be it. I rather pay that extra $5 bucks than oppose to $300 if I didn't.
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Our healthcare is driven by big business in the name of drug and insurance companies. In our lifetimes, we won't see free healthcare. In order for the uninsured to get care, they DO have to compromise their care.....waiting for hours at health departments for basic care or having to use the ER for a dr.s office. The town I live in has one hospital. They are non profit and built a primary care clinic for the cities uninsured who were having to use the ER for their primary care. It was funded in part by the county and private donations. The county has backed out. Now these people are back to square one. The county says it costs too much. So who is responsible??? We have medicaid and medipass in Florida which is a Godsend to those who have it and they are usually the low income families or disabled folks. I make decent money but at my last job, to insure my daughter, it cost me almost $350 a month. It was difficult for me on my salary. So how about the CNA that made $11/hr with 3 kids to raise. How the hell was she supposed to do it. She didn't because she couldn't afford it. She, like so many others, used the Primary care clinic for her children that is now closing it's doors. I know someone has to be responsible for paying. If it's not the county, it's the state. If not the state, then the federal gvmt. But with the amount of waste our government has....no matter what level, you would think some of that money could be filtered to better programs for the groups of people I was referring to. It is ridiculous that we don't take better care of our citizens instead of spending billions of dollars sending 18 year olds overseas to fight a pointless war ( that's a different thread alltogether). I've seen it from both sides. As a health care provider and as a single parent making $5.50 an hr. I do not know what the answer is. I truly don't. What I know is that something has to change so that we all have access to the SAME care. You shouldn't have to compromise your health or end up in the hospital like Manders did when a script for Antibiotics could have prevented that just because you dont have the priviledge of wealth.
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I do Celly. As a nurse, I care about your health. I take care of you, but the last 5 or 6 years, each job the amount of financial burden on me, as the nurse has exponentially increased. I'm so sick of it. Can't use the supplies I really need. Gotta use the crap stuff, cuz it's cheaper. Gotta watch the way I word things so the companies get reimbursed more. Don't even get me started on Medicare and their reimbursement regulations. The nursing notes that I write have EVERYTHING to do with reimbursement for the company. The bottom line is always financially related. I find very few companies that I have worked for where the patient is actually the top priority. I have a hospice patient that I see 3 or 4 days a week. That's not normal though. Medicare regulations say I only have to see these folks once every 14 days. It'll never happen with me. She is a complicated case and she lives alone but I spend as much time with her as I need to to keep her out of pain and to keep her anxiety level down. Now they tell me I'm spending too much time with her. WTF?????Yeah it takes away from productivity. I don't give a rats ass about productivity. You want me to case manage, let me manage. It's always about the money. It makes me want to get out of healthcare altogether. It's the patient that suffers in the end. Bahhhh! I gotta stop.
