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Sounds like someone has munchausen. I wonder if her customers (new ones in particular) are starting to smell a rat. Surely, it has to feel "off" or that something isn't right.
Another vote for Munchausen over here. I am having serious flashbacks to that time when there was a rash of "teen deaths" that turned out to be completely faked online, down to the existence of the teenager. I will be surprised if the current bags go out and shocked if it goes another month.

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I can't see how anyone would wanna purchase anything from a company setup like this. When I look to purchase products I am looking for professional , on time, information safe company. This has been a non stop soap op on diseases on and on of causes and charity. I can't even count this as a box sub in my mind anymore.

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I wonder if the donated money actually goes to the charity. I'm not trying to make any accusations or start speculation, but it seems like a shady and mismanaged company. I don't know what they are doing though, maybe they have a PayPal or something so that the donations go straight to the recipients.

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The donations are through Paypal, I know this as I was one of the people to donate. I'm also one of the new "customers" , I really wanted to give this box a chance but now I don't know what to think. I had not really heard to much about the company until I sighned up for MUT recently, now I know that there have been problems in the past. It makes me a little uneasy. I will let you all know whats in the box when I get it as I did get a tracking # yesturday.

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Originally Posted by Christyo View Post

 

The donations are through Paypal, I know this as I was one of the people to donate. I'm also one of the new "customers" , I really wanted to give this box a chance but now I don't know what to think. I had not really heard to much about the company until I sighned up for MUT recently, now I know that there have been problems in the past. It makes me a little uneasy. I will let you all know whats in the box when I get it as I did get a tracking # yesturday.

Thank you for taking this the way it is and not us being  "haters" lol this thread is here for people like you, that don't know all that much about what has happened to the company. (please don't take this the wrong way :) )

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Regarding the donations... Wasn't Patty raising the money to donate to the American Cancer Society? Has she done so or is she using MUT as an excuse not to? Has anyone checked up on that? She she had people donate via Paypal obviously they would have a record of those donations and if she donated that money raised to the ACS. Anyone know or has looked into that?

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I haven't, but I've seen varying statements regarding the little girl. The first was announcing she planned to give them $, then she said she didn't make enough $ on her subscriptions, however she would be donating a $100 gc of her own $. Then, she stopped talking abt that, and vaguely mentioned "helping out" the little girl's fam by donating clothing. I'm not sure if she did wind up giving them anything of monetary value because she said mut foiled her Mac plans, which caused her to lose out on $ that was intended for charities.

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I believe there are some problems (generally, not necessarily in this particular situation) if you don't have a PayPal account set up solely and specifically for donations (a local company ran into this problem when they tried to collect donations for something through their own PayPal account), so this could get interesting.

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I don't think  paypal  will release funds that are raised for charities unless that business is registered as a nonprofit. Raising a buttload of money quickly through paypal raises red flags and your account can be put under review with the funds sitting in limbo until paypal comes to a resolution. It was all over their FB page last year when regretsy was raising money for needy families around Christmas time and had trouble accessing the money.

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So if Paypal got wind of this they can investigate and freeze her account? Honestly, here's my opinion. What she should have done was put up a notice on her site or FB wall requesting people send DIRECTLY to the American Cancer Society the money in ____ name. This will 1) give those donating money a tax write off and 2) no money goes into Patty's hands so she can't be accused of stealing money for her own gain which I'm not saying she's doing however with the donations in her own hands she puts herself in that position of being accused.

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Zadi- That's a good question, unfortunately I'm unsure about the answer. Their FB wall is pretty active, so you would probably get a response fairly quickly if you asked there.

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I think if you advertise something as being for a charity and not follow through, it's some sort of charity fraud. Not only is it unmoral but it's against the law. If you received even a PENNY for that charity, it needs to go to that charity. Doesn't matter if she didn't make enough money or if someone outed her. There are several aspects too I think she would have to follow being a "business" and collecting for a charity. It is not the same as us giving $5 here and there at Wal Mart or IHOP when they're asking for donations.

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I just went to her facebook page for the first time in a LONG time and I can't even get past one post. Her posts are so long winded.. Get to the point.

 

And I would be MORTIFIED to tell my customers/any customers all this business. How embarrassing. I completely understand that people go through things in life and they want to keep their clientele up to base but there are boundaries and many TMI red flags. WHY!?

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I have lupus and have never spent a day in the hospital either. She's so full of it. I feel sorry for anyone falling for her scam.
I agree! She is a big scam!

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Oh, I really do hope for her sake that she was smart about this charity thing! I think she does mean well but lacks, well...business sense? And I mean that the nicest way possible - or at least the least mean way!

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If she really has a "successful businessman" husband then perhaps she should ask him for advice.

Unless, of course, his "successful business" is as shady as Red Carpet seems to be.

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I did get my Red Carpet Box Friday and it was full of products,No lipstick like she said. It had 3 nail polishes 2or3 cream eyeshadows some hair product a cute makeup bag and a watch, little pearl earrings and a candle that is also body oil when melted. Everything looks new and all brands that I've used or know about.I will put a pick up as soon as I get a minute.

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"Red Carpet Box Tammy --We did respond to your question in your other thread and we are very sorry for the confusion and edited our website as soon as it was pointed out to us there was the verification thread to sign still. There is no verification post that you have to sign to donate. There was a verification post for a free gift that was supposed to be MAC lipstick, then a forum threatened actions against us if we gifted this MAC so we substituted your gift for your timepiece in your box as the substitute for your free gift. The watch you received in your box is the substitute gift for the MAC. We wanted to launch with MAC for a free gift in the spirit of celebration for our new boxes but we were unable to do so due to the forum reporting us to MAC and impressing upon our clients to take actions against us. There is nothing that has to be signed. Your free gift was already in your box and we hope that you enjoy it. One piece of quality jewelry is going to be in the new boxes each month. We have enjoyed buying from a jeweler who hand makes and also has stock of quality he doesn't hand make but wholesales also. We hope you enjoy our new program. We apologize for the confusion." Strange. If she is referring to mut, she is really nuts. I didn't realize that pointing out that counterfeit makeup was dangerous meant, "threatening action against" her co. "We needed verification that you were going to be okay with that free gift and that we would be held harmless for gifting you. However, a certain beauty forum had taken action to impress upon our company that if we gifted the MAC (that we purchased from one of our main wholesalers that is American and is honest) they would report us and impressed upon others to take other actions against us as well. We decided as a company that nothing was more important than to keep our cause going and to focus on what was important as a company and to do the right thing for our Clients and our company and the very people we are trying to sponsor, namely, Jordan and Sheila, and gift you a watch in your first subscription box as your free gift for donating. " Why would she be concerned abt being reported if her wholesaler is an "honest American"?

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*sigh* Why does she not get M•A•C does NOT allow ANYONE to sell or distribute their products without authorization. Her vendor is NOT among those authorized unless she's buying from Belk, Macy's, Dillard's or other authorized vendors.

 

Has she addressed the money donations and proved she's donated the money? A few screenshots from her Paypal account showing she donated the money would be helpful on her part.

 

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 View Post

"Red Carpet Box Tammy --We did respond to your question in your other thread and we are very sorry for the confusion and edited our website as soon as it was pointed out to us there was the verification thread to sign still. There is no verification post that you have to sign to donate. There was a verification post for a free gift that was supposed to be MAC lipstick, then a forum threatened actions against us if we gifted this MAC so we substituted your gift for your timepiece in your box as the substitute for your free gift. The watch you received in your box is the substitute gift for the MAC. We wanted to launch with MAC for a free gift in the spirit of celebration for our new boxes but we were unable to do so due to the forum reporting us to MAC and impressing upon our clients to take actions against us. There is nothing that has to be signed. Your free gift was already in your box and we hope that you enjoy it. One piece of quality jewelry is going to be in the new boxes each month. We have enjoyed buying from a jeweler who hand makes and also has stock of quality he doesn't hand make but wholesales also. We hope you enjoy our new program. We apologize for the confusion."

Strange. If she is referring to mut, she is really nuts. I didn't realize that pointing out that counterfeit makeup was dangerous meant, "threatening action against" her co.

"We needed verification that you were going to be okay with that free gift and that we would be held harmless for gifting you. However, a certain beauty forum had taken action to impress upon our company that if we gifted the MAC (that we purchased from one of our main wholesalers that is American and is honest) they would report us and impressed upon others to take other actions against us as well. We decided as a company that nothing was more important than to keep our cause going and to focus on what was important as a company and to do the right thing for our Clients and our company and the very people we are trying to sponsor, namely, Jordan and Sheila, and gift you a watch in your first subscription box as your free gift for donating. "

Why would she be concerned abt being reported if her wholesaler is an "honest American"?

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Originally Posted by zadidoll View Post

 

*sigh* Why does she not get M•A•C does NOT allow ANYONE to sell or distribute their products without authorization. Her vendor is NOT among those authorized unless she's buying from Belk, Macy's, Dillard's or other authorized vendors.

 

Has she addressed the money donations and proved she's donated the money? A few screenshots from her Paypal account showing she donated the money would be helpful on her part.

 

I think she does (maybe to some extent) but just doesn't want to admit it because it's going to make her look bad. Playing innocent "I didn't know these products were fake I just got them from a good old american vendor" is going to make her look much better (in her mind, anyway). Or maybe I'm giving her too much credit.

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MAC does not sell to wholesalers ever. They don't ever allow their products to be sold wholesale. It doesn't matter if the wholesaler claims they are authentic. They are fake, and that is illegal. This is what I think she does not understand. 

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Holy crap on a bloody cracker! Is this *still* going on? o_O

 

I really, truly, honestly would have thought that Karma would have whacked her with the cl00bat by now.  OTOH, she's a true, textbook Narcissist and I really don't see Karma being able to beat THAT out of her with anything less that the Amazonian Rain Forest. o_O

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Holy crap on a bloody cracker! Is this *still* going on? o_O I really, truly, honestly would have thought that Karma would have whacked her with the cl00bat by now.  OTOH, she's a true, textbook Narcissist and I really don't see Karma being able to beat THAT out of her with anything less that the Amazonian Rain Forest. o_O
Yup, very manipulative. Twisting the Mac problem around in a way to deflect blame off of her, and put it on mut. She seems to thrive off of drama, otherwise, she would be professional, and stop mentioning mut "forcing her" to stop Mac and bringing all her charities to a screeching halt.

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