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Hey peeps!

I took some meat (homemade beef burgers) out of the freezer this morning because i knew we'd be having them for dinner this evening and i wanted them to thaw out.. But stupid me left them on the plate in the kitchen all day instead of putting them in the fridge. Do you think it would be un-safe to cook and eat them?

 
I think it should be ok. If my mom is thawing some chicken, she leaves it on a plate on the kitchen counter.

 
Legally, yes... but I do this often and as long as they're well done I've never had problems. If you don't feel comfortable, don't do it.

 
Wow, that was a quick answer! Wasn't expecting one that quick Marisol.. I'm thinking they might be alright too. I remember my mom telling me ages ago that its cool as long as the kitchen is cool. Thanks sweetie! If you dont see me online over the next few days its coz i have food poisoning *giggles*
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Originally Posted by Laura Wow, that was a quick answer! Wasn't expecting one that quick Marisol.. I'm thinking they might be alright too. I remember my mom telling me ages ago that its cool as long as the kitchen is cool. Thanks sweetie! If you dont see me online over the next few days its coz i have food poisoning *giggles*
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You are too funny!
I did a quick Google search and found this info.

The Big Thaw - Safe Defrosting Methods

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</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Uh, oh! You're home and forgot to defrost something for dinner. You grab a package of meat or chicken and use hot water to thaw it fast. But is this safe? What if you remembered to take food out of the freezer, but forgot and left the package on the counter all day while you were at work?

Neither of these situations are safe, and these methods of thawing lead to foodborne illness. Food must be kept at a safe temperature during "the big thaw." Foods are safe indefinitely while frozen. However, as soon as food begins to defrost and become warmer than 40°F, any bacteria that may have been present before freezing can begin to multiply.

"Foods should never be thawed or even stored on the counter, or defrosted in hot water. Food left above 40°F (unrefrigerated) is not at a safe temperature," cautions Bessie Berry, manager of the USDA Meat and Poultry Hotline.

Even though the center of the package may still be frozen as it thaws on the counter, the outer layer of the food is in the "Danger Zone," between 40 and 140°F – at temperatures where bacteria multiply rapidly.

"When defrosting frozen foods, it's best to plan ahead and thaw food in the refrigerator where food will remain at a safe, constant temperature -- 40°F or below," recommends Berry.

There are three safe ways to defrost food: in the refrigerator, in cold water, and in the microwave.

Refrigerator Thawing

Planning ahead is the key to this method because of the lengthy time involved. A large frozen item like a turkey requires at least a day (24 hours) for every 5 pounds of weight. Even small amounts of frozen food -- such as a pound of ground meat or boneless chicken breasts -- require a full day to thaw. When thawing foods in the refrigerator, there are several variables to take into account.

  • Some areas of an appliance may keep the food colder than other areas. Food placed in the coldest part will require longer defrosting time.
  • Food takes longer to thaw in a refrigerator set at 35°F than one set at 40°F.
After thawing in the refrigerator, ground meat and poultry should remain useable for an additional day or two before cooking; red meat, 3 to 5 days. Foods defrosted in the refrigerator can be refrozen without cooking, although there may be some loss of quality.

Cold Water Thawing

This method is faster than refrigerator thawing but requires more attention. The food must be in a leak-proof package or plastic bag. If the bag leaks, bacteria from the air or surrounding environment could be introduced into the food. Also, meat tissue can also absorb water like a sponge, resulting in a watery product.

The bag should be submerged in cold tap water, changing the water every 30 minutes so it continues to thaw. Small packages of meat or poultry – about a pound – may defrost in an hour or less. A 3- to 4-pound package may take 2 to 3 hours. For whole turkeys, estimate about 30 minutes per pound. If thawed completely, the food must be cooked immediately. Foods thawed by the cold water method should be cooked before refreezing.

Microwave Thawing

When microwave defrosting food, plan to cook it immediately after thawing because some areas of the food may become warm and begin to cook during microwave defrosting. Holding partially cooked food is not recommended because any bacteria present wouldn't have been destroyed and, indeed, may have reached optimal temperatures for bacteria to grow.

Foods thawed in the microwave should be cooked before refreezing.

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Thanks, Marisol, this was very informative! I guess I won't be thawing any food out on the counter anymore..oopsy!

 
My mom always told me not to thaw food at room temperature, I guess she was right!
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Oopsie! Well i've eaten it now so we'll see how i feel tomorrow! I did cook it for longer than usual hoping that might make things alright!

 
Oopsie! Well i've eaten it now so we'll see how i feel tomorrow! I did cook it for longer than usual hoping that might make things alright!

Laura:

It is never a good idea to leave meat out all day, and even cooking it longer will not kill the bacteria that can cause food poisening. Also, you cannot always tell by the smell or taste if the food is unsafe. I was surprised to learn that there are actually many different types of food poisening and sometimes, depending on the type of poisening, symptoms don't appear for several days.

When I am in a hurry, I thaw using the cold water method. It is quicker than the frig.

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As long as you cooked it thoroughly there shouldn't be a problem. I leave chicken to defrost on the side during the day when I'm at work, as long as where you leave it is fairly cool it should have been fine. Bacteria that cause food poisoning in meat generally show between 4 and 24 hours, but some times up to 48. I test food for food poisoning bacteria for my work.

But never ever put hot or even warm food in the fridge or freezer, you're hugely increasing your risk of food poisoning if you do that.

 
Originally Posted by Sirvinya But never ever put hot or even warm food in the fridge or freezer, you're hugely increasing your risk of food poisoning if you do that.

OK, Now I'm confused. I was always told to put food in the refridgerator right away because if you leave it out it has time to grow bacteria.
 
Originally Posted by leelee04 OK, Now I'm confused. I was always told to put food in the refridgerator right away because if you leave it out it has time to grow bacteria. Noooo! Leave it in a cool place to cool down then put it in the fridge. Listeria spp. (these bacteria cause very nasty food poisoning)will love it if you put warm food in the fridge. If I cook a batch of food, I leave it in the pan I cooked in for a couple of hours then transfer it into another container to put in the fridge.
 
Originally Posted by leelee04 OK, Now I'm confused. I was always told to put food in the refridgerator right away because if you leave it out it has time to grow bacteria. I was always told that you shouldn't leave most cooked food out for more than 2 hours, while refrigerated foods (like milk or cream pies) and cooked foods with lots of dairy products shouldn't be left out more than one hour. I usually find that any cooked foods are fairly cooled off after an hour or even less (especially if they were transfered to a serving dish rather than served in a hot dish straight from the oven) so I put them in the fridge then. My mom did always say not to put hot food in the refrigerator, but let it approach room temperature first...
 

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