The most longlasting, smudge-proof pencil eyeliner AND liquid eyeliner?

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I'm using Mac's Liquidlast liquid eyeliner and it is super longlasting, does not smudge, doesn't come off, and works wonders on my oily eyelids, BUT I hate the consistency of the product. It's really drippy and super wet and the brush is very, very hard to work with - it took me months to be able to really work with it properly and even now I kind of struggle. Does anyone know any other liquid eyeliners that are super strong, long-staying, don't smudge and are pitch black that I could try out? Please keep in mind that I have oily lids and the liner has to be very longlasting and water-proof.

I'm also looking for a pencil eyeliner that is VERY longlasting and has the same qualities I'm looking for in a liquid liner.

High-end or drugstore, it does not matter. Thanks!! x

 
I have super oily lids as well and the ones I love best are - Makeup forever for pencils, Stila for liquid felt tips (although I just bough Urban Decay's new Ink For Eyes and it seems to be working well too), Makeup Forever for the dip-in liquid brushes, and Tarte for cream liners.

 
This isn't a liquid but it's my absolute favorite for everything that you're talking about.  Inglot's gel liner in whatever number is black.  11?  7?  Something.  You *have* to use a primer with it, but as the queen of having eyeliner all over my lids, with a primer, this ish ain't moving.  It also works really great to smudge when you use a primer, but once it sets, it's set.  I have the hardest time getting it off my lids.  Love it.

 
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