I remember when MAC opened their first actual stores. Their products were far better way back when. I didnt buy anything MAC for over 10 years, after my first introduction to them. They still have the odd things I like, but there are now more misses with them than hits. I did start buying some of their products again last year, mostly blushes & MSF Natural (the only 'foundation-type' product they make that doesn't break me out or turn orange on me). The vast majority of their eyeshadows, liners & mascaras I find to be abysmal, though. Vougeboy is right. Kryolan & other companies that market to pro makeup artists are far better, not to mention very often cheaper. As far as brushes go, I haven't bought a MAC brush since they first opened their retail stores. I personally have never felt they're worth the ridiculous prices they charge. I do love when sales people at places like MAC try to pressure me into buying something by telling me that a product is incredibly popular because it's great quality, or that their brand is better than other counters'. I know damn well they're not & tell them that I've heard the exact opposite from reviewers, that their ingredients are no better than drug store brands & that the texture & pigmentation of their products is pretty pathetic considering the prices they're charging. It's true. I'm not the slightest bit interested in brand snobbery or impressing buffoons who work for any cosmetic company, including MAC. I'm able to afford pretty much all brands I'm interested in, but that doesn't mean I'm going to flush cash down the toilet for the sake of having a compact embellished with any specific brand just so I can pull it out of my bag to flash in front of people. I can't stand brand name whores. I want great products, period. It's so sad that MAC has gone to hell as a company when so many others, especially drug store brands, are vastly improving. No reason for it other than greed and complete lack of vision for the company.