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I didn't know whether this belonged her or in the 'advice and rants' forum. I figured since I'm more wanting a discussion then to rant/ask for help I'd put it here.
Now I talk to a lot of guys and one things a lot of them will talk about is how they just can't stand 'fake' women. I'm talking physically here, but I'm sure they think physically probably also delves down into their personality too. The other day I was around men ranting about push up bras and how it's so fake of women to wear them, can't stand them, blah blah. So then I countered with telling them that I wear them quite a lot and other girls to, and that it seems to attract more guys then repel like they're acting like. Plus the fact that they'd never know if they were push up bras since there was soo little of a chance they'd ever get most girls out of their clothes......LOL shut them up.
But it's got me thinking about all the other times I've heard men talk about how they can't stand barbie dolls, plastic girls, girls who try to hard........but then you look around at the women who are considered sexiest by lots of guys (the kinds on in mens magazines, porn, anime depending on the guy XP[now that is fake]) and they're not exactly the epitome of real girls. Now I have nothing against so called 'fake' girls. I mean I wear make up, have had hair extensions, worn padded bras, used self tanner, and lots of other things men seem to rant and rail against, yet, (not) surprisingly get me a lot more attention then I normally do. It's like do men not realize that all these pictures they're drooling over in magazines are photo-shopped, or how much time those celebrities they love spend on hair and makeup? To me it seems like such an unrealistic expectation for guys to want girls who are beautiful to their standards, yet at the same time rant about how girls aren't real.
Here is an MSN convo I had last night which I think basically sums up my thoughts:
Me: also push up bikini?
Me: there's such a thing?
Guy: No, that was the joke.
Guy: If there was beaches would basically be a giant RL Photoshop job.
Me: lol well considering how many men would see those girls out of their bikinis, I'm sure they wouldn't actually complain to much about 'fakeness'
Guy: You'd be surprised. XD Guys don't like mind games.
Me: pshh guys rant about 'fake' girls and then that's the most common type of girl gone after. I think men just don't want to know things are fake
Guy: Probably.
Actually this just reminded me of a time in Glamor magazine when they showed men 3 pictures of a women with 3 different types of natural looks (one almost no makeup look, a barely makeup look, and pretty much a full out sexy look) and asked the guys which one they preferred.....and there was seriously something like 80% of guys liked the one with the most makeup.
So have you had any situations with guys like this? Do you think that it's because men just have unrealistic expectations, would rather not know how much work it takes to look good, or just really don't like it? Or do you think it's all total BS XD?
Now I talk to a lot of guys and one things a lot of them will talk about is how they just can't stand 'fake' women. I'm talking physically here, but I'm sure they think physically probably also delves down into their personality too. The other day I was around men ranting about push up bras and how it's so fake of women to wear them, can't stand them, blah blah. So then I countered with telling them that I wear them quite a lot and other girls to, and that it seems to attract more guys then repel like they're acting like. Plus the fact that they'd never know if they were push up bras since there was soo little of a chance they'd ever get most girls out of their clothes......LOL shut them up.
But it's got me thinking about all the other times I've heard men talk about how they can't stand barbie dolls, plastic girls, girls who try to hard........but then you look around at the women who are considered sexiest by lots of guys (the kinds on in mens magazines, porn, anime depending on the guy XP[now that is fake]) and they're not exactly the epitome of real girls. Now I have nothing against so called 'fake' girls. I mean I wear make up, have had hair extensions, worn padded bras, used self tanner, and lots of other things men seem to rant and rail against, yet, (not) surprisingly get me a lot more attention then I normally do. It's like do men not realize that all these pictures they're drooling over in magazines are photo-shopped, or how much time those celebrities they love spend on hair and makeup? To me it seems like such an unrealistic expectation for guys to want girls who are beautiful to their standards, yet at the same time rant about how girls aren't real.
Here is an MSN convo I had last night which I think basically sums up my thoughts:
Me: also push up bikini?
Me: there's such a thing?
Guy: No, that was the joke.
Guy: If there was beaches would basically be a giant RL Photoshop job.
Me: lol well considering how many men would see those girls out of their bikinis, I'm sure they wouldn't actually complain to much about 'fakeness'
Guy: You'd be surprised. XD Guys don't like mind games.
Me: pshh guys rant about 'fake' girls and then that's the most common type of girl gone after. I think men just don't want to know things are fake
Guy: Probably.
Actually this just reminded me of a time in Glamor magazine when they showed men 3 pictures of a women with 3 different types of natural looks (one almost no makeup look, a barely makeup look, and pretty much a full out sexy look) and asked the guys which one they preferred.....and there was seriously something like 80% of guys liked the one with the most makeup.
So have you had any situations with guys like this? Do you think that it's because men just have unrealistic expectations, would rather not know how much work it takes to look good, or just really don't like it? Or do you think it's all total BS XD?