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Wow, there has definitely been several different solutions suggested. I was having the same problem as you and have finally found some products that work! As far as what everyone else has recommended, there are some good ideas. I would agree that chemical peels/laser treatments are too harsh - as well as spendy! Especially since your skin didn't respond well when you tried it.
What you need is something gentle that will speed up/assist with cell turnover, as well as be a skin brightener/lightener. AHA does do this, as it is a brightener and chemical exfoliant, but it is harsh, and there are other products out there that accomplish the same thing. I think you should stop using the AHA 12% souffle. The MaMa lotion that someone recommended would be worse in your situation, as it is 20% AHA! in this same vein, glycolic acid, lactic acid, and aspirin are all AHAs (aspirin has it in it), so while they're not as concentrated, I'd stay away from them for now.
From what I've heard and experienced, Retinol is the most effective ingredient. It is the animal form of vitamin A, and is good for cell turnover. It does not require a prescription. Retin A, however, is the acidic form of vitamin A, does require a prescription, is used for treating acne, and is harsh and irritating.
As far as all the other recommendations: yes - be gentle, try microdermabrasion as it is a gentle/light scrub/exfoliation. Arbutin and soy are also good skin brighteners. Vitamin E oil and Coconut oil are supposed to be good for your skin in general, not sure about discoloration. Emu oil is supposed to be GREAT for discoloration/acne scars! Lumiere talks about it and sells it in their skin care section, or you can find it at any all-natural place, such as here at Garden of Wisdom. Bio Oil also seems like it would be great, as it's gotten such faublous reviews, and has good ingredients. (Vitamin A, Vitamin E, Calendula oil, Lavender oil, Chammomile oil, and Rosemary oil.) As far as the Lumedia, Peter Thomas Roth, and DDF lightening creams, I'm sure they work just fine, but if I've learned anything from all the products I've tried, it's that higher price does not equal better results. (Check out Paula Begoun's book, The Beauty Bible, or her website, The Cosmetics Cop, for very informative discussion on this.)
Also, YES, YES, YES, DEFINITELY USE SUNSCREEN! Even if you had normal, perfect skin that required no other maintenance, sunscreen is a must. Either get a moisturizer with SPF (minimum 15, more depending on the average time you spend outside), or add sunscreen to your routine if you don't mind the second step. (See the quote I included at the bottom.)
For acne in general, I've never heard of benzoyl peroxide making red marks stay longer; it's actually one of the best acne medications around, unless you have sensitive skin. (I use Acne Free - a less expensive dupe of Proactiv, with slightly higher percentage of BP - and it's worked miracles for me!!) If you do have sensitive skin, Murad has a BP-free acne treatment set that is supposed to be pretty good. OHappyDaye is trying it out right now. Check out her thread here for her continuing updates on how it's working for her.
Whew! So all that said, what has actually worked for me?
For microdermabrasion, I use The Body Shop's Vitamin C Micro Refiner. It's not as spendy as most ($21 for a whopping 2.5 oz.!), and it does just as well as the others. Plus, the Vitamin C is a good skin brightener, which will help with your issue. Also, it just smells and feels so good - I LOVE this stuff! You're supposed to use it once a week after washing your face (am or pm, whichever you prefer), but sometimes I just can't resist and use it twice, lol. But don't do this if your skin is easily irritated - mine isn't.
I also use Neutrogena's Healthy Skin Visibly Even Skin-Polishing Enzyme Treatment. It's a twice-weekly gentle mask with an enzyme that helps to not only brighten the skin, but also even out the tone. If microdermabrasion is too harsh for your skin, you still get less abrasive, gentle micro-exfoliation from this product.
The one I swear by, however, is Neutrogena's Healthy Skin Visibly Even Night Concentrate. It is a night-time cream formulated specifically for blotchiness/redness and dark spots. This, I believe has been the most help to me, and if you get nothing else, I'd get this. It has Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Soy, and Retinol. IMO, this is great because it combines all the best products for this problem in one easy cream.
Neutrogena also has a couple other products in their Healthy Skin Visibly Even line: there's a daytime SPF 15 moisturizer, which has Vitamin C and Soy, as well as a foaming cleanser, also with Vitamin C and Soy.
I would definitely recommend using another moisturizer besides the Aloe Vera Gel, because while it is great as a moisturizer, it doesn't do anything (as far as I know) to address your specific problem. Cleanser, however, rinses off of your skin (obviously, lol), so what's in it doesn't actually absorb into your skin, and therefore doesn't matter. (But companies will swear up and down this isn't so, just to market more "needed" products to you.) What really matters is that is an effective cleanser w/out drying or stripping your skin. The one you're using now sounds perfect!!
Wow, that was a lot, but I really hope it helps! I understand how aggravating it is to have those marks, and am glad to have finally figured out something that works!! Hope my success helps you. :smile:
Here's that quote I mentioned earlier:
:hugss:
What you need is something gentle that will speed up/assist with cell turnover, as well as be a skin brightener/lightener. AHA does do this, as it is a brightener and chemical exfoliant, but it is harsh, and there are other products out there that accomplish the same thing. I think you should stop using the AHA 12% souffle. The MaMa lotion that someone recommended would be worse in your situation, as it is 20% AHA! in this same vein, glycolic acid, lactic acid, and aspirin are all AHAs (aspirin has it in it), so while they're not as concentrated, I'd stay away from them for now.
From what I've heard and experienced, Retinol is the most effective ingredient. It is the animal form of vitamin A, and is good for cell turnover. It does not require a prescription. Retin A, however, is the acidic form of vitamin A, does require a prescription, is used for treating acne, and is harsh and irritating.
As far as all the other recommendations: yes - be gentle, try microdermabrasion as it is a gentle/light scrub/exfoliation. Arbutin and soy are also good skin brighteners. Vitamin E oil and Coconut oil are supposed to be good for your skin in general, not sure about discoloration. Emu oil is supposed to be GREAT for discoloration/acne scars! Lumiere talks about it and sells it in their skin care section, or you can find it at any all-natural place, such as here at Garden of Wisdom. Bio Oil also seems like it would be great, as it's gotten such faublous reviews, and has good ingredients. (Vitamin A, Vitamin E, Calendula oil, Lavender oil, Chammomile oil, and Rosemary oil.) As far as the Lumedia, Peter Thomas Roth, and DDF lightening creams, I'm sure they work just fine, but if I've learned anything from all the products I've tried, it's that higher price does not equal better results. (Check out Paula Begoun's book, The Beauty Bible, or her website, The Cosmetics Cop, for very informative discussion on this.)
Also, YES, YES, YES, DEFINITELY USE SUNSCREEN! Even if you had normal, perfect skin that required no other maintenance, sunscreen is a must. Either get a moisturizer with SPF (minimum 15, more depending on the average time you spend outside), or add sunscreen to your routine if you don't mind the second step. (See the quote I included at the bottom.)
For acne in general, I've never heard of benzoyl peroxide making red marks stay longer; it's actually one of the best acne medications around, unless you have sensitive skin. (I use Acne Free - a less expensive dupe of Proactiv, with slightly higher percentage of BP - and it's worked miracles for me!!) If you do have sensitive skin, Murad has a BP-free acne treatment set that is supposed to be pretty good. OHappyDaye is trying it out right now. Check out her thread here for her continuing updates on how it's working for her.
Whew! So all that said, what has actually worked for me?
For microdermabrasion, I use The Body Shop's Vitamin C Micro Refiner. It's not as spendy as most ($21 for a whopping 2.5 oz.!), and it does just as well as the others. Plus, the Vitamin C is a good skin brightener, which will help with your issue. Also, it just smells and feels so good - I LOVE this stuff! You're supposed to use it once a week after washing your face (am or pm, whichever you prefer), but sometimes I just can't resist and use it twice, lol. But don't do this if your skin is easily irritated - mine isn't.
I also use Neutrogena's Healthy Skin Visibly Even Skin-Polishing Enzyme Treatment. It's a twice-weekly gentle mask with an enzyme that helps to not only brighten the skin, but also even out the tone. If microdermabrasion is too harsh for your skin, you still get less abrasive, gentle micro-exfoliation from this product.
The one I swear by, however, is Neutrogena's Healthy Skin Visibly Even Night Concentrate. It is a night-time cream formulated specifically for blotchiness/redness and dark spots. This, I believe has been the most help to me, and if you get nothing else, I'd get this. It has Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Soy, and Retinol. IMO, this is great because it combines all the best products for this problem in one easy cream.
Neutrogena also has a couple other products in their Healthy Skin Visibly Even line: there's a daytime SPF 15 moisturizer, which has Vitamin C and Soy, as well as a foaming cleanser, also with Vitamin C and Soy.
I would definitely recommend using another moisturizer besides the Aloe Vera Gel, because while it is great as a moisturizer, it doesn't do anything (as far as I know) to address your specific problem. Cleanser, however, rinses off of your skin (obviously, lol), so what's in it doesn't actually absorb into your skin, and therefore doesn't matter. (But companies will swear up and down this isn't so, just to market more "needed" products to you.) What really matters is that is an effective cleanser w/out drying or stripping your skin. The one you're using now sounds perfect!!
Wow, that was a lot, but I really hope it helps! I understand how aggravating it is to have those marks, and am glad to have finally figured out something that works!! Hope my success helps you. :smile:
Here's that quote I mentioned earlier:
:hugss: