Ok, so I bought the loreal double extend in the red tube. I really like it. It does make the curl fall a little, but I was encouraged when I put on the primer and my curl stayed. I waited until the primer dried a little before risking the second step with mascara. I really loved Chanel's Inimitable mascara for my straight, hard-to-keep-a-curl Asian lashes. It is seriously the best ever. Added volume, length, and didn't remove the curl I put in (also in 4-5 places as another user commented.) sadly, it IS. $30 a tube, and in my smaller town I'd have to wait to go to Tucson or order online and pay shipping. I'll try and buy that one every other tube, to help even out the feel of the expense. It's expensive but really worth it!