Originally Posted by katnahat /img/forum/go_quote.gif I don't wear fur because I'm allergic to animal hair. Fur is merely a fashion statement for people who wear it. They wear it to show they have enough money to buy one. Wearing it as a status symbol is inane.
If everybody in the world stopped wearing fur it would stop animals from being killed for that specific reason. That would help a lot of animals. Some furs are made because the animal is dead already for other reasons. What can be done, if people continue to want them and buy them?
I don't want to see animals killed for fashion or makeup. That does seem senseless. PETA and everybody in the world that go off the deep end about animal rights is part of the reason nothing can be done about animal deaths for fashion and makeup. The average meat-eating person thinks the PETA organization is comprised of nuts. People get pissed off when vegans and vegetarians try to impose their beliefs on the rest of society. For example, Joaquin Phoenix doing those PETA commercials saying "don't eat turkey for thanksgiving eat tofu turkeys". Ugh, what, come on??? I can't even watch movies with him it. All I can think about is that inane commercial with him walking through the market with all those turkeys, “don’t kill turkeys for food eat tofu turkeysâ€. I am paraphrasing; I don’t remember the exact phrases. There are hundreds of thousand of turkeys in the world. It’s not hurting anything to eat some of them. Things like this cause people to ignore PETA. Vegans and vegetarians can eat “their way†all they want, that’s fine by me, but don't put me down and call me a killer because I eat meat and like it. I don’t put down vegetarians or vegans, unless they kill their baby by starving it to death. I just read a story about that, just this week. See, things like that make people think vegans and vegetarians don’t look at things with common sense. Meat-eaters look at these types that want to protect animals, as people that will sacrifice the humans for the animals. If PETA would tone it down some then maybe carnivores would get behind the fur and makeup cause. Let’s be honest, some of those PETA people just make it harder for them to advance their agenda. They make too many meat-eaters want to dismiss them. Nobody that eats meat will stop to listen to a PETA speaker, even if they are naked. With the exception of a few uncaring people I don't think anyone wants to see animals killed for reasons of beauty and fashion. I know I don't.
I don't see anything wrong with leather. It is a very important part of clothing and many other things that we use everyday. The cow is dead anyway for the beef. Why not put the hide to use?
Living off the animals on the Earth is part of life. We need to look at it with common sense. People are going to eat meat and wear leather. Fur and makeup related uses could be stopped if everyone would work together.
Simply because supporting leather means supporting the meat industry, i guess if you eat meat then yes you don't care to use leather, but since i dont, i feel it's wrong.
not to mention leather doesnt just come from cows Kat, more often than you'd think you're buying a CAT or a DOG or other small animals JUST for leather. so yeah, it's pretty much the same as fur.
Thats a big misconception, it comes from cows that are already dead so why not? No..not always. It comes from many animals and killed just for that reason too.
I don't see the big deal with buying fake leather, so you might have to buy it more often than a leather product, it's still cheaper, and you're still not wearing a dead cat.
By the way, im kind of affended by your post. You're blaming PETA, a group of people who actually care about animals and want to try to make a difference so they use many different tactics and slogans to try to get the message out - for the animal cruelty? Thats just rediculous. People are gonna do what they are going to do anyways, don't blame PETA. It's perfectly ok what PETA does, after all it IS murder even if the consumer isnt the one who murdered it. I just don't see that as justifiable. There are so many commercials for eating meat, why cant there be some for not eating it? People just get mad when others challenge what their doing and say it's wrong, because they might believe hey..they're right, but I like it, so im gonna get mad and pretend that it's okay. Maybe you should research PETA a bit more before you say stuff like that, because PETA gets tons and tons of people to end animal cruelty by sending out petitions, emails, letters, you know it. Not just for meat but for fashion and makeup.
"There are hundreds of thousand of turkeys in the world. It’s not hurting anything to eat some of them." - except those turkeys..
And my last statement: I was a meat eater until I saw a PETA video and cruised through their website and learned lots of interesting facts and stuff. So yes im going to pay attention to PETA and not just dismiss them cause I think theyre crazy?
Wether or not you think they are, they still have a way better message to bring than most people. And you can learn a lot through them.
